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01:26 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
what part of "i will only play 11 more games". u dont understand?
stop asking me about 2-1 or whatever.
I have played 4 games.. if u say is 3 .. ok .. just know that no one in will make me play more than 11 games.
stop asking me about 2-1 or whatever.
I have played 4 games.. if u say is 3 .. ok .. just know that no one in will make me play more than 11 games.
01:26 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
If you all spent as much time playing games rather than posting, 3 pages now there wouldnt be an issue.
Leave the issue with the league runners and get the games played
Leave the issue with the league runners and get the games played
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01:29 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
Am I missing something here? The supposed rule break mentioned is that the game was not 'private'?
Leaving aside that both players presumably started the game under these conditions and therefore any result of a game completed under those conditions should really stand, if it is viewed as a definite rule break then surely all games are voided and it reverts to 0-0?
Can't have it as a half way house - its one or the other.
Anything relating to the spectator coming to the room is irrelevant as a) its overridden by the game room type issue which has occurred first and b) because there was no invite and also there was no mutual consent understanding (at least from anything posted so far on the threads)?
Not taking any sides here - just trying to understand whats going on as it clearly affects the written rules and, potentially, future games, let alone is causing unnecessary ill feeling.
Leaving aside that both players presumably started the game under these conditions and therefore any result of a game completed under those conditions should really stand, if it is viewed as a definite rule break then surely all games are voided and it reverts to 0-0?
Can't have it as a half way house - its one or the other.
Anything relating to the spectator coming to the room is irrelevant as a) its overridden by the game room type issue which has occurred first and b) because there was no invite and also there was no mutual consent understanding (at least from anything posted so far on the threads)?
Not taking any sides here - just trying to understand whats going on as it clearly affects the written rules and, potentially, future games, let alone is causing unnecessary ill feeling.
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01:30 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
i have post today here more than what ive post in 5 years in this site... this estress me!. this is the last clan thing i ll play. i really dont need this..
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01:34 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
i asked to start from 0 - 0 .. and play pool.. not trying to take off a game a i won. that simple. just cuz someone got into the room. which should complaint as soon as he got in.. No after the game was over.
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01:34 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
Toluca was asked to leave before it was started, he agreed then in the 3rd frame decided he would return, he was aware that he was unwelcome as ant had asked him to leave and he agreed to leave.
Jay has said a number of times the score stands at 2-1 just King8ball seems unable to accept it.
Am I missing something here? The supposed rule break mentioned is that the game was not 'private'?
Leaving aside that both players presumably started the game under these conditions and therefore any result of a game completed under those conditions should really stand, if it is viewed as a definite rule break then surely all games are voided and it reverts to 0-0?
Can't have it as a half way house - its one or the other.
Anything relating to the spectator coming to the room is irrelevant as a) its overridden by the game room type issue which has occurred first and b) because there was no invite and also there was no mutual consent understanding (at least from anything posted so far on the threads)?
Not taking any sides here - just trying to understand whats going on as it clearly affects the written rules and, potentially, future games, let alone is causing unnecessary ill feeling.
Leaving aside that both players presumably started the game under these conditions and therefore any result of a game completed under those conditions should really stand, if it is viewed as a definite rule break then surely all games are voided and it reverts to 0-0?
Can't have it as a half way house - its one or the other.
Anything relating to the spectator coming to the room is irrelevant as a) its overridden by the game room type issue which has occurred first and b) because there was no invite and also there was no mutual consent understanding (at least from anything posted so far on the threads)?
Not taking any sides here - just trying to understand whats going on as it clearly affects the written rules and, potentially, future games, let alone is causing unnecessary ill feeling.
Toluca was asked to leave before it was started, he agreed then in the 3rd frame decided he would return, he was aware that he was unwelcome as ant had asked him to leave and he agreed to leave.
Jay has said a number of times the score stands at 2-1 just King8ball seems unable to accept it.
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01:39 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
i asked to start from 0 - 0 .. and play pool.. not trying to take off a game a i won. that simple. just cuz someone got into the room. which should complaint as soon as he got in.. No after the game was over.
0 - 0 or 2 - 2 ...
why 2 - 2 ? just because he waited until see game results to talk about it..
and My time and effort on winning that game.. no one will take it.. just like that. like u playin with a kid!
0 - 0 or 2 - 2 ...
why 2 - 2 ? just because he waited until see game results to talk about it..
and My time and effort on winning that game.. no one will take it.. just like that. like u playin with a kid!
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01:40 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
I spoke to Ant about this yesterday and the first 3 frames count only. The fact that the room was public is irrelevant as the rule doesn't say a private room is a MUST. Whether toluca's presence affected Ant's game play or not, it was made clear by Ant that no spectators were welcome. Toluca re-entering the room breeched the terms of the game, therefore making frame 4 redundant.
I have been sent screenshots so I know what happened.
I have been sent screenshots so I know what happened.
01:41 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
Got to agree with chris if this is the chain of events as how they unfolded.
Am I missing something here? The supposed rule break mentioned is that the game was not 'private'?
Leaving aside that both players presumably started the game under these conditions and therefore any result of a game completed under those conditions should really stand, if it is viewed as a definite rule break then surely all games are voided and it reverts to 0-0?
Can't have it as a half way house - its one or the other.
Anything relating to the spectator coming to the room is irrelevant as a) its overridden by the game room type issue which has occurred first and b) because there was no invite and also there was no mutual consent understanding (at least from anything posted so far on the threads)?
Not taking any sides here - just trying to understand whats going on as it clearly affects the written rules and, potentially, future games, let alone is causing unnecessary ill feeling.
Leaving aside that both players presumably started the game under these conditions and therefore any result of a game completed under those conditions should really stand, if it is viewed as a definite rule break then surely all games are voided and it reverts to 0-0?
Can't have it as a half way house - its one or the other.
Anything relating to the spectator coming to the room is irrelevant as a) its overridden by the game room type issue which has occurred first and b) because there was no invite and also there was no mutual consent understanding (at least from anything posted so far on the threads)?
Not taking any sides here - just trying to understand whats going on as it clearly affects the written rules and, potentially, future games, let alone is causing unnecessary ill feeling.
Got to agree with chris if this is the chain of events as how they unfolded.
01:42 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
If Ant was unhappy in the 4th frame and that game is to be void, why did he play in a 5th frame? just seems like twisting the rules to suit. 3-2 2-2 or 0-0 seems to be the logical choice, you can't justify 2-1 really.
There is 0 possibility of toluca's presence affecting ants play in the 4th frame because it was a gb. and it was a 1-0 after 2-1, therefore both players would've had to click yes after one person left the game.
I spoke to Ant about this yesterday and the first 3 frames count only. The fact that the room was public is irrelevant as the rule doesn't say a private room is a MUST. Whether toluca's presence affected Ant's game play or not, it was made clear by Ant that no spectators were welcome. Toluca re-entering the room breeched the terms of the game, therefore making frame 4 redundant.
I have been sent screenshots so I know what happened.
I have been sent screenshots so I know what happened.
There is 0 possibility of toluca's presence affecting ants play in the 4th frame because it was a gb. and it was a 1-0 after 2-1, therefore both players would've had to click yes after one person left the game.
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01:44 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
Got to agree with chris if this is the chain of events as how they unfolded.
Toluca was asked to leave before it was started, he agreed then in the 3rd frame decided he would return, he was aware that he was unwelcome as ant had asked him to leave and he agreed to leave.
Jay has said a number of times the score stands at 2-1 just King8ball seems unable to accept it.
Am I missing something here? The supposed rule break mentioned is that the game was not 'private'?
Leaving aside that both players presumably started the game under these conditions and therefore any result of a game completed under those conditions should really stand, if it is viewed as a definite rule break then surely all games are voided and it reverts to 0-0?
Can't have it as a half way house - its one or the other.
Anything relating to the spectator coming to the room is irrelevant as a) its overridden by the game room type issue which has occurred first and b) because there was no invite and also there was no mutual consent understanding (at least from anything posted so far on the threads)?
Not taking any sides here - just trying to understand whats going on as it clearly affects the written rules and, potentially, future games, let alone is causing unnecessary ill feeling.
Leaving aside that both players presumably started the game under these conditions and therefore any result of a game completed under those conditions should really stand, if it is viewed as a definite rule break then surely all games are voided and it reverts to 0-0?
Can't have it as a half way house - its one or the other.
Anything relating to the spectator coming to the room is irrelevant as a) its overridden by the game room type issue which has occurred first and b) because there was no invite and also there was no mutual consent understanding (at least from anything posted so far on the threads)?
Not taking any sides here - just trying to understand whats going on as it clearly affects the written rules and, potentially, future games, let alone is causing unnecessary ill feeling.
Got to agree with chris if this is the chain of events as how they unfolded.
Toluca was asked to leave before it was started, he agreed then in the 3rd frame decided he would return, he was aware that he was unwelcome as ant had asked him to leave and he agreed to leave.
Jay has said a number of times the score stands at 2-1 just King8ball seems unable to accept it.
01:45 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
king8ball1 has stated several times he will play 11 more games, so why does ant not just come on and play those 11 games?
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01:46 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
hes "painting" keith and as been for past 4/5 hour :S
king8ball1 has stated several times he will play 11 more games, so why does ant not just come on and play those 11 games?
hes "painting" keith and as been for past 4/5 hour :S
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01:47 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
Actually the two scores that can be justified are 2-1 or 3-1 being sporting we are not claiming the frame King8ball walked out of, hence saying 2-1 not 3-1!
If Ant was unhappy in the 4th frame and that game is to be void, why did he play in a 5th frame? just seems like twisting the rules to suit. 3-2 2-2 or 0-0 seems to be the logical choice, you can't justify 2-1 really.
Actually the two scores that can be justified are 2-1 or 3-1 being sporting we are not claiming the frame King8ball walked out of, hence saying 2-1 not 3-1!
01:48 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
hes "painting" keith and as been for past 4/5 hour :S
should make for an interesting default then
king8ball1 has stated several times he will play 11 more games, so why does ant not just come on and play those 11 games?
hes "painting" keith and as been for past 4/5 hour :S
should make for an interesting default then
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01:50 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
In all honesty, I have the screenshots of the conversation between king8ball1 and antione08 (also toluca321), I can blatantly see what took place and 2-1 is the result at the moment, if both players can continue to play the remaining 12 frames, that would be most appreciated. If not then to the default panel it goes.
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01:50 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
Actually the two scores that can be justified are 2-1 or 3-1 being sporting we are not claiming the frame King8ball walked out of, hence saying 2-1 not 3-1!
how can it be 3-1
if ant carried on its 3-2 at most to ant, zak as got a VERY interesting point there, IF toluca came in at the 3rd frame and they both stopped playing, toluca would have ad to leave the game for ant to press YES so the Golden Break should count
If Ant was unhappy in the 4th frame and that game is to be void, why did he play in a 5th frame? just seems like twisting the rules to suit. 3-2 2-2 or 0-0 seems to be the logical choice, you can't justify 2-1 really.
Actually the two scores that can be justified are 2-1 or 3-1 being sporting we are not claiming the frame King8ball walked out of, hence saying 2-1 not 3-1!
how can it be 3-1
if ant carried on its 3-2 at most to ant, zak as got a VERY interesting point there, IF toluca came in at the 3rd frame and they both stopped playing, toluca would have ad to leave the game for ant to press YES so the Golden Break should count
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01:52 Mon 16 Apr 12 (BST) [Link]
Re-entering doesnt breech the rules if its an open room - the rules only cover invites. If you start a game in an open room you are accepting those conditions. If you dont accept the conditions then you stop immediately and revert back to the guidelines as per the rules.
If that happens at 2-1 after the first three games, and during game 3 the issue arises, how does game 4 start? And consequently also game 5 as well?
As for screen shots they have always been not allowed as evidence on the basis they can be changed. Certainly not something I would know how to do but many posts on the subject showing they can be. Again its all or nothing - you use them all the time or not at all.
If that happens at 2-1 after the first three games, and during game 3 the issue arises, how does game 4 start? And consequently also game 5 as well?
As for screen shots they have always been not allowed as evidence on the basis they can be changed. Certainly not something I would know how to do but many posts on the subject showing they can be. Again its all or nothing - you use them all the time or not at all.
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