M.V.P. - The Return (Part 2)

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09:23 Sun 15 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
dgeneratio said:
1st was a mistake 2nd time wasn't as i was putting it right from the previous set.

look if i went back and asked default for a re-cast on lyle vs skiller 90% of them would vote no, but because it was over with i let it slide even with the miscommunication. 2nd time people voted no for the bonus (maybe due to set before i don't know) but i said no at the end because of that previous set (still 10 bonus points whether you like it or not).

if both of them was Yes for bonus then clearly would have been a mistake.

up to MVP if you want the bonus for davy's 15-0 game but i take away the bonus from lyle vs skiller (still 10 bonus points) as it should be or leave it as it is but one thing is clear you wouldn't have got both bonuses either way.

We'll give you what you deserve but take away from the other lol, also strange how you told me we deserved both and how you voted to give them lol

We deserved the bonus for both because twice the opponents left the games, but we accepted the leagues decision after so many arguments because we decided the default panel was a joke and there was no point arguing over 10 points, as for not giving because your saying we shouldnt have got the first time was the biggest farce thats happened in this league this season, told you at the time, 2 wrongs dont make a right, now we will just laugh at this and move on and hope the league runners next season know what they are doing and do it fair.


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09:39 Sun 15 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
dgeneratio said:
cphaynes said:
It's not MVP's fault for YOUR "miscommunication" though. Where as this match (Davy's game) and set of matches should have the 10points bonus.

It's your error basically, not MVP's!

was MVP's as well someone sent in information which was false which at the time they believed is true, this of course influenced the bonus choices. the bonus won't be changed no matter what you think or say unless ab wants to swap lyles bonus with davys but you won't be awarded 20 bonus points its simply not right.

so stop arguing a case you cannot win and one what has already been dealt with, just enjoy these last 2 weeks.

No false info was sent in, I'm not going to get into another debate / argument about this tho,

Well done on the defaults by the way lol
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09:44 Sun 15 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
horse10000 said:
whocares8x8 said:
chris said:
whocares8x8 said:
The only truly inactive players we had were ccfc1927 and pirate_steve.


Hang on, pirate_steve scored 8 points for being 'truly inactive'?
Ha! Look at his opponent! jpenny3 was offline for 8 days at a time if I remember correctly. pirate was off at most 3 days.
That would've been one where they could've rewarded less than the full amount. But if they were giving them all, pirate deserved them more than his opponent for sure.


his opponent was pool_champ_2, i am glad you track things so clearly
wow jeeeez horse- heavy punishment for a simple mistype.
Yes, of course I meant pirate's opponent pool_champ_2....... to whom what I said applies.
You're not very lenient with simple oversight mistakes these days huh?
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09:46 Sun 15 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
chris said:
But if your player is 'truly inactive' I am sure you and dgen would have made the panel aware of this. As per Rule 8.9.1 that would have been reflected in the scores for both players.
I sent in all the info that applied. I said he was active early on (remember, he got a clan game done) but wasn't active in the second half of the fixture. Similarly, the opponent was offline twice for more than 5 days (I had asked for subs on the thread), so that was sent in as well.
What the default team does with it is not up to me.
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Fixture Set Five!

[B]MVP 42 - 18 Top Guns[/B]

mrmagic 7 - 8 skiller10
bluenose1872 10 - 5 xxx
beenjammin 13 - 2 staffie_man
eemad 12 - 3 hotdave
bunzrybhoy vs [MEMBER]sxs000[/MEMBER]
dvz vs [MEMBER]rocketweaz8[/MEMBER]
cphaynes vs [MEMBER]pricer73[/MEMBER]
davybaumers vs [MEMBER]nick79theman[/MEMBER]

[B]Snooker Squad 27 - 33 MVP[/B]

rapid_pot 7 - 8 cphaynes
dgeneratio 6 - 9 the_diamond
whocares8x8 6 - 9 dvz
i_am_blessed 8 - 7 beenjammin
[MEMBER]pirate_steve[/MEMBER] vs eemad
[MEMBER]crazy_greg[/MEMBER] vs michaelg
[MEMBER]juventus[/MEMBER] vs mrmagic
[MEMBER]sean92[/MEMBER] vs sean_paul


[B][U]Cup Final[/B][/U]

[B]MVP 51 - 39 Shooters[/B]

bluenose1872 9 - 6 chalkie35
michaelg 7 - 8 its_me
tinie 7 - 8 potlimit
eemad 9 - 6 doubted2
sean_paul 10 - 5 jame2010s
beenjammin 9 - 6 mdj
davybaumers vs [MEMBER]lethal_lures[/MEMBER]
dvz vs [MEMBER]yetti[/MEMBER]
cphaynes vs [MEMBER]compo2007[/MEMBER]

[U]Deadline[/U]: 29/01/12

[B]MVP[/B] [;)][:D][:)]
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Good luck in last few games in cup guys!

Hope you win it
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Why do people keep saying we're having arguments, it's a debate, and us understanding why you cheated us out of 10 points..... Thats not an argument, thats you telling us something that should be, and us responding.

James, put your Head League Runner cap on, and take that silly looking Snooker Squad one off, and make the proper decision.

Re-look into both, as both weren't MVP's fault, for them not being completed. Hence why we should have the 10 points, no matter if we're going to win the league or not, and that shouldn't be coming into it!
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Also, another little thing.... Can't teams play a fixture in 2 weeks anymore? 3 weeks is so excessive, there are only 2 teams playing 3 fixtures, maybe give them the extra week, not that we'd really need it.



Oh and Alan, Davy said he isn't able to play due to him change his internet or something, I'll find the quote.
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I am offline until July, no internet in upcoming months
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4.2 Fixture bonus points
Each Clan in the fixture receives a bonus of 10 points for no defaults if both teams have no games left to play by the deadline stated.

I think no matter what has happened, or what was said, the above pretty much covers it. It hasn't been changed. But on the bright side, you're still 10 points up.

Only the FBL changed the rules (or they were already written that way) to allow bonuses with unplayed games.
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14:48 Sun 15 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
whocares8x8 said:
horse10000 said:
whocares8x8 said:
chris said:
whocares8x8 said:
The only truly inactive players we had were ccfc1927 and pirate_steve.


Hang on, pirate_steve scored 8 points for being 'truly inactive'?
Ha! Look at his opponent! jpenny3 was offline for 8 days at a time if I remember correctly. pirate was off at most 3 days.
That would've been one where they could've rewarded less than the full amount. But if they were giving them all, pirate deserved them more than his opponent for sure.


his opponent was pool_champ_2, i am glad you track things so clearly
wow jeeeez horse- heavy punishment for a simple mistype.
Yes, of course I meant pirate's opponent pool_champ_2....... to whom what I said applies.
You're not very lenient with simple oversight mistakes these days huh?


Just pointing out the deliberate mistake I thought you might understand and laugh at your simple error
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14:50 Sun 15 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
chris said:
4.2 Fixture bonus points
Each Clan in the fixture receives a bonus of 10 points for no defaults if both teams have no games left to play by the deadline stated.

I think no matter what has happened, or what was said, the above pretty much covers it. It hasn't been changed. But on the bright side, you're still 10 points up.

Only the FBL changed the rules (or they were already written that way) to allow bonuses with unplayed games.


Chris this is correct by the rules on the website but it was argued and agreed that where player deactivates or it is obviously not one teams fault that bonuses would apply to the team who was not at fault.

Only asking for the rules that stand to be applied
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15:36 Sun 15 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
cphaynes said:
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Why do people keep saying we're having arguments, it's a debate, and us understanding why you cheated us out of 10 points..... Thats not an argument, thats you telling us something that should be, and us responding.

James, put your Head League Runner cap on, and take that silly looking Snooker Squad one off, and make the proper decision.

Re-look into both, as both weren't MVP's fault, for them not being completed. Hence why we should have the 10 points, no matter if we're going to win the league or not, and that shouldn't be coming into it!

no, reason you didn't deserve the bonus between skiller vs lyle is that skiller was around during the weekend so lyle could have got it played.

bonuses should only be awarded for games where there is no chance to play the games.

so like i said i can switch the bonus from skillers game to davys but you won't get both, this is my league running head on.

take it or leave it.
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cphaynes said:
Also, another little thing.... Can't teams play a fixture in 2 weeks anymore? 3 weeks is so excessive, there are only 2 teams playing 3 fixtures, maybe give them the extra week, not that we'd really need it.

reason its 3 because its most important fixture
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16:14 Sun 15 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
dgeneratio said:
cphaynes said:
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Why do people keep saying we're having arguments, it's a debate, and us understanding why you cheated us out of 10 points..... Thats not an argument, thats you telling us something that should be, and us responding.

James, put your Head League Runner cap on, and take that silly looking Snooker Squad one off, and make the proper decision.

Re-look into both, as both weren't MVP's fault, for them not being completed. Hence why we should have the 10 points, no matter if we're going to win the league or not, and that shouldn't be coming into it!

no, reason you didn't deserve the bonus between skiller vs lyle is that skiller was around during the weekend so lyle could have got it played.

bonuses should only be awarded for games where there is no chance to play the games.

so like i said i can switch the bonus from skillers game to davys but you won't get both, this is my league running head on.

take it or leave it.


At least we now know being on for 4 hours on the final weekend in 2 weeks is acceptable for trying to play a game and shows effort. Half of which were after 02.00am This after being awol for the rest of the fixture.

Going by some defaults recently i am surprised we didn't lose the default for lyle as well.
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16:15 Sun 15 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
dgeneratio said:
cphaynes said:
Also, another little thing.... Can't teams play a fixture in 2 weeks anymore? 3 weeks is so excessive, there are only 2 teams playing 3 fixtures, maybe give them the extra week, not that we'd really need it.

reason its 3 because its most important fixture


3 might not be enough we have SS and they failed to get 12 finished last set with 3 weeks
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16:25 Sun 15 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
horse10000

i will gladly make a sub
and i would request the same for davys game been offline 7 days to
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FCL CUP
MVP v Shooters (sub)
was
cphaynes v copmo2007
is
cphaynes v david5
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horse10000 said:

At least we now know being on for 4 hours on the final weekend in 2 weeks is acceptable for trying to play a game and shows effort. Half of which were after 02.00am This after being awol for the rest of the fixture.

Going by some defaults recently i am surprised we didn't lose the default for lyle as well.

he wasn't awol rest of fixture otherwise lyle and skiller wouldn't have played the first time fact is skiller was around so lyle could have got it played thats only reason you don't deserve the bonus.

about 2 am you should know as well as anyone that timezones doesn't mean much on defaults.

example:

gentle_giant is 13 hours in front of UK so because of work commitments etc he might not be able to get it played, don't forget what could be afternoon for us could be early morning for other people.

about the snooker squad defaults we will see what happens with that but seb has already said the clan may fold if it happens this yet so part of me thinks you want it to fold but my other part thinks you want to do best for the league.

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