Ah i got that

Well earlier it does seem it was definitely down as no one could get on. But when it's only a handful, it's further down the line on the way to your pc. I don't know how it works, it just does lol.

everyone saying the same so it was the server

i feel your pain red alert, but if you play long enough, the server will hurt and help you. I even got robbed of a day event medal once, much less countless tournaments. I posted about the event medal, recieved a little sympathy but that was it, never got the medal. I just learned to let it go and consider it part of the luck factor.

like you havent got enough already been

Apologies about this. Often there are server issues which play havoc with tournaments, as I have myself have found out to my cost (most notoriously when getting disconnected while potting the winning ball). This is regrettable; however there are no rollback or replay features for tournaments.

As for some (but not all) of the rest of you, someone is annoyed at something outside of their control that has affected their playing experience, and all you could do is throw it back in their face and tell them to stop crying and other rubbish. We despise such provocation on the forums, some of which has come from members who may easily have had warnings before for their actions on the forums, if not more severe action than that. If you can't be respectful on the forums to other people, then maybe you shouldn't be posting. Think about that. And remember, it takes only one ill-conceived (yet probably deliberate) post from you to have your posting revoked, and it takes just one person (if even that) to point it out to us. Have some respect. And an online pool player calling a fellow online pool player sad because he/she plays online pool doesn't deserve further comment or consideration from any reasonable person.

From a personal point of view, I disagree with people who have said the stats are just a number and have downplayed the importance of winning one tournament. Tournaments (and stats, ranking, etc) mean different things to different people, and if the site if going to provide someone with the number of tournament wins of theirs, and provide a table of the top tournament winners, then well they might be annoyed at not being credited every time. I've seen world wars erupt on the forums over one frame in clan matches, or at least they might as well have been world wars based on the things that were said. Surely a server issue that effects multiple players who have played multiple games deserves more attention.

The server crashing didn't cheat him out of a tournament win though clooneman he was in the second round.
Annoying when it happens but it has happened to everyone on here at a lot later stages in tournaments, losing a lot more ranking points regularly.
If everyone created a thread about a game they lost due to exactly the same circumstances would have thousands on the subject...8 or so just from this tournament.
Some of the posts were out of line, not arguing with that but I don't think people saying 'It happened, accept it' and 'it's really not a big deal' is out of line at all because that's what everybody else does.

That's true. I don't think though that either he or I said he was cheated out of the tourney win. But it was a coincidence (I think) that his opponent ended up winning, seeing as the other semi-final ended up DQ-DQ.



I agree with both of your points here. People saying 'It happened, accept it' and 'it's really not a big deal' is not out of line at all; and some of the posts were out of line.

about the DQ thing, i saw whocares8x8 logged out about a minute before i did then the server went down so perhaps that person was lucky enough to stay connected to win?

also say you had.

whocares8x8 DQ-DQ brentologist
damee - BYE

in semis, the Semi would have been Dq'd due to connection or slow time punishment making damee the winner as he got the BYE.

make sense clooney?

But wouldn't it DQ damee anyway if he wasn't online? or can you not get DQ'd for not being on the site if you don't have an opponent in the round?

but i think in the semi's he had a BYE-DQ against me?

no damee would win as he wouldn't have an opponent for the final.

You talking about a disconnection midway through a round though?

i mean if both disconnect (either by home or server) or both time out, damee would win because he has no opponent in the final.

if you don't have an opponent to play (online or not) then you can't play so you can only win and not lose.

in other words the BYE is like a forfeit.

I think that, in this particular instance, the quarter-final was decided instantly as thhe games finished BYE-DQ (although the DQ-DQ games could have been where both players were online and failed to join the game, or both got DQ during the game, etc etc).

The semis are odd then, because the games finished either DQ-DQ or BYE-DQ (although the DQ-DQ game could have been where both players were online and failed to join the game, or both got DQ during the game, etc etc). If they were both logged off at the start of the round (which would also have been at the start of the quarter-finals, as that round was completed in an instant), then it's bizarre that poolbiird and
zantetsukenz who weren't DQ in the q-finals, were DQ in the semis. Or is it?

Past experience shows us that a) if there are naturally meant to be byes in a round because the number of players is less than a power of 2, AND b) the number of DQ players in that round is greater than the amount of these "natural" byes, then some of the DQ players will still appear at the bottom off the draw with no opponent and with the word BYE after their name, as happens occasionally in Round 1 of tournaments when there the number of tournaments is just over a power of 2, but the number of players not logged in is greater than this; then some of the DQ players get a bye at the bottom of Round 1 and get disqualified at the top of Round 2.

In the case of this tournament, it looks as though something happened at the end of Round 2, then with only 6 players in the quarter-finals, there were 2 byes scheduled, but because 5 out of the 6 were not logged in, only 2 of them appeared to be DQ, the rest appeared to get byes, and the remaining three players were DQ in the semis. Notice that raskolnikoiv, who was online throughout, is at the top of the draw in those two rounds.

Further info

15:31
Round 2
8 Ball UK Tournament - redalert124 (1) loses to raskolnikoiv (1) (by default, redalert124 left the game)

15:34
Quarter-finals
8 Ball UK Tournament - jame2010s loses to raskolnikoiv by default (non attendance of tournament match)
8 Ball UK Tournament - cool_dude loses to poolbiird by default (non attendance of tournament match)
Semi-finals
8 Ball UK Tournament - zantetsukenz loses to raskolnikoiv by default (non attendance of tournament match)

15:38
http://www.funkypool.com/member/raskolnikoiv/history
Mon 24/10/11 Won the 8 Ball UK Tournament, winning 378 TournaPoints!

There are 7 minutes between redalert124's disconnection and the tournament win, suggesting that redalert124's disconnection was caused by a different event than whatever effected everyone else. Also, I've included the three games in the quarters and semis that are BYE-DQ (as DQ-DQ show no results). However, the two DQ-DQ games in Round 2 show games at the start of the matches, but obviously they did not succeed in finishing, for whatever reason. I can't account for the 4 minutes between the semi-finals finishing (unless it was waiting for poolbiird and pintofshandy to come online...?!?) and the tournament being finished.

Who knows whats the cause, just play the game and enjoy your games, nothing else really matters..

modern technology isn't flawless