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alxima
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05:28 Wed 20 Jul 11 (BST)  [Link]  
I have an idea: how to create tournaments in killer format, which is the only game still without tourney.
1. The tourney is formed by creating several killer games with 3 players in each selected randomly like in other formats
2. Winners of each game create new games of 3 players
3. And the thus the winner of final game of 3 is announced with all earned points and fame.

If one of the games is falling apart because of no attendance then remaining players go into next round pool

I think it may work.

What you guys think?

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05:30 Wed 20 Jul 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Yah sounds great, but maybe there can be more players?
alxima
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05:51 Wed 20 Jul 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Correction:

<If one of the games is falling apart because of no attendance then remaining players go into next round pool >

there is no need to dismantle players in "no attendance" situations the game may continue like in regular killer with 2 or even 1 player left - who is collecting all points.

Let's do it !!!!!

Cheers
alxima
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05:54 Wed 20 Jul 11 (BST)  [Link]  
9ballsniper1 said:
Yah sounds great, but maybe there can be more players?


With more players I think timing will be difficult to manage and The Tourney may be too long.
Unless it will be kind of marathon tourney with 4 players.
alxima
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05:55 Wed 20 Jul 11 (BST)  [Link]  
You know 3 player Killer is sometimes like 9ball: unpredictable. Lol
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05:58 Wed 20 Jul 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Good idea m8! Lets see what others think!
alxima
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06:14 Wed 20 Jul 11 (BST)  [Link]  
9ballsniper1 said:
Good idea m8! Lets see what others think!


Thank you m8.
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11:48 Wed 20 Jul 11 (BST)  [Link]  
I love killer so I like the idea of tourneys I never like playing 3 man though because one weak player dictates who wins.
The other problem is timing, one game can go on for ever and another can be over in 5 minutes just don't think it works for tourneys.
dgeneratio
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14:41 Wed 20 Jul 11 (BST)  [Link]  
killer tournies cant work alx because nick can only do tournies 1 v 1 format and 1 v 1 killer would be boring to say the least.

been plenty of threads on it in the past.

however in the future it may be a possibility if doubles comes into play.

Edit:

Pool Threads: http://www.funkypool.com/findTopic.do?forumid=6&searchString=killer+tournaments

Snooker Threads: http://www.funkysnooker.com/findTopic.do?forumid=2&searchString=killer+tournaments

most recent:

http://www.funkypool.com/thread/17641/double-points-for-killer/1

take your pick

Edited at 12:01 Wed 20/07/11 (BST)
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01:27 Thu 21 Jul 11 (BST)  [Link]  
alxima said:
I have an idea: how to create tournaments in killer format, which is the only game still without tourney.
1. The tourney is formed by creating several killer games with 3 players in each selected randomly like in other formats
2. Winners of each game create new games of 3 players
3. And the thus the winner of final game of 3 is announced with all earned points and fame.

If one of the games is falling apart because of no attendance then remaining players go into next round pool

I think it may work.

What you guys think?

read how he explained, how it might work....
dgeneratio
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13:11 Thu 21 Jul 11 (BST)  [Link]  
if nick can only do 1 v 1 formats it wont work as alximas idea is 1 v 1 v 1 and he can't do that, maybe if doubles came out he could find a way to do 2 v 2 tournaments but until then killer tournaments wont exist.
eemad
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15:32 Thu 21 Jul 11 (BST)  [Link]  
The current tournament structure would need a complete overhall for multiple player games in tournys and not just 1v1. Has been talked about since day one for killer these tournys, it's just if nick will actually do the effort required.
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16:18 Thu 21 Jul 11 (BST)  [Link]  
ive make a killer tourny on the pool events forum. ill need either:

9 players: three 3 player games and a 3 player final.

16 players: four 4 player games and a 4 player final.

25 players: five 5 player games and a 5 player final.

27 players: nine 3 player games 1st round, three 3 player games 2nd round and a 3 player final.

i think we would need 16 or 25 to compensate for no shows, cause if 1 person doesnt no show in a 4 man killer then you sill have a game, the same can be said for a 3 man game...

heres the thread i just made:
http://www.funkypool.com/thread/17939/killer-tournament-every-day-at-10pm-uk-time

first tourney scheduled tonight
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19:33 Thu 21 Jul 11 (BST)  [Link]  
I still think it would not be too difficult to introduce 'micro style' Killer tournaments as discussed elsewhere.

At a set time a game of Killer (say 15 players) is automatically set up (games are automatically set up now in tournaments so not much difference there) and an announcement made inviting players to join.

At the start time the game commences regardless of how many players there are in the room (achieving this is the only new 'gaming logic' required I think).

Alternatively it may be possible to use the 'join' system that exists now and at the start time those players that joined receive invites to the Killer Tournament game. Automatically starting the game regardless of numbers taking up the invite is again the new logic required.

The rest is already in place - tournament rank weighting and Tournapoints allocation to be applied.

Presumably the way nick seemed to be able to make a quick adjustment to increase Killer from 10 to 15 players before, there would be no reason why the Killer Tournament could not have any number of players as a maximum. However clearly the more players the longer the game and the time between shots.

Although this wouldn't be a progressive tournament with rounds it would still be a Tournament where you would have no control over who you played against, could win tournament ranking points and Tournapoints.
alxima
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08:32 Sat 23 Jul 11 (BST)  [Link]  
dgeneratio said:
if nick can only do 1 v 1 formats it wont work as alximas idea is 1 v 1 v 1 and he can't do that, maybe if doubles came out he could find a way to do 2 v 2 tournaments but until then killer tournaments wont exist.


my idea is not 1v1v1
it only requires invite system and points system:
funkypool only organizes 3som or 4som games and sequences
them as tournament with tourney points
otherwise games themselves follow as usual killer games.
dgeneratio
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13:01 Sat 23 Jul 11 (BST)  [Link]  
if nick can do it then great but its like doubles a distant memory.
the_only_ego
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19:20 Sat 23 Jul 11 (BST)  [Link]  
no point in this really is there? DOUBLED points is terrible as it is, see how the rankings of everyone is so much lower now or they give away the points they win in tournys to remain lower with less to lose and a tourny to gain.

isn't killer pretty much played in every tourny anyway? i mean look at any game and watch how many snookers come in just for these "tournapoints" and extra point's.

& on another note very much doubt this will happen, 3 friends enter the tourny, 2 progress to final - team works going to be happening so tourny's are going to seem almost impossible to be imagened happening any time soon.
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20:20 Sat 23 Jul 11 (BST)  [Link]  
the_only_ego said:
DOUBLED points is terrible as it is, see how the rankings of everyone is so much lower now


That completely misses the point that in a genuine ranking system the actual scores are irrelevant other than how they are used to differentiate between players in establishing the ranking order.

With very few exceptions the actual ranking tables (ie top 10's or top 50's) are far more representative and meaningful now than they were in the past.

However all that is nothing to do with the thread of Killer Tournies.
the_only_ego
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21:20 Sat 23 Jul 11 (BST)  [Link]  
3man games are worth how many points these days? with doubled points in a tourny this format will be completly flawed much like others, the ranks will need to be lowered or it will be a very high demanded tourny as there will be almost double figure points for each win if i am not mistaken 3 man games are now worth around4 points at least depending on their levels.
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21:33 Sat 23 Jul 11 (BST)  [Link]  
They would only be 3 man games/tournaments if there were only 3 entrants (bearing in mind the only way to have a Killer tournament at the moment appears to be to have one large game of Killer not progressive rounds).

There aren't many tournaments that have less than 8 entrants even offpeak.

I think there would be no difficulty filling 15, or more, player Killer Tournament games a couple of times a day.
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