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15:52 Tue 16 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Hi kev mate, i gave ab permission to announce joker86 and bunrzybhoy, didnt realise it needed to be posted anywhere, sorry bud
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15:54 Tue 16 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
poaching will never stop as long as the rule is in place that u can leave teams during a season it needs to be as kev just stated maybe a week or two week transfer window in the middle of a season
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15:58 Tue 16 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
2 weeks transfer is too long.

seb said on snooker we have 1 week transfer in middle of season.

if players leave before transfer window they have to wait until transfer window

players leave during transfer window - fine

players leave after transfer window, cannot compete for season

Cup - No Transfers allowed, once you played a cup game you cannot play another cup game for a different clan

this will make people think about leaving and also then it removed the released thing we currently have.
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16:08 Tue 16 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
kev04 said:

I thought of something the other day just haven't had time to post, regarding player transfers during a season.

I was thinking something along the lines of a clan can begin the season with 15 players or whatever the limit we set is, no player may move between clans during a season, but the clan can sign a certain amount of free agents after a certain date so in effect go over the limit by signing free agents, rather than the situation of poaching we currently have.

Maybe you could start the season with say between 12-14 players (depending on the limit), then after a certain point we allow them to sign free agents, say after a week. Maybe allow them 4-5 free agents, taking the new in-season limit if you like up to around 16-18.

You could also incorporate a transfer window half way through the season and a cut-back period whereby clans have to go back to the original limit set and can begin the free agent process again

i dont think we should raise the limit tbh.

league atm - about 50% of players from teamlist can be subbed in (if teamlist is full)
cup atm - over 60% of players from teamlist can be subbed in (if teamlist is full)

should be more than enough to get any game completed.

poaching can't be helped but your top line can stop them, or the transfer period we have on snooker.
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16:08 Tue 16 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
well yeah i was just saying one or two week as a ballpark thing :P
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16:09 Tue 16 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
antione08 said:
Hi kev mate, i gave ab permission to announce joker86 and bunrzybhoy, didnt realise it needed to be posted anywhere, sorry bud

thanks for that clarification mate, i don't think kev can take warnings away though.
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16:10 Tue 16 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Unfortunately it's too late now, but not your fault Ant. They should've got you to confirm it on their thread first before they were named.
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16:11 Tue 16 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
i don't think it was anyones fault, just an easy mistake to make but problem solved
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16:16 Tue 16 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
It's MVP's fault, they should've been more thorough just like the other clans.
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16:18 Tue 16 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
mattywellie said:
poaching will never stop as long as the rule is in place that u can leave teams during a season it needs to be as kev just stated maybe a week or two week transfer window in the middle of a season


Poaching for during the season will stop if we ban players from transferring during the season. Obviously there will be clans poaching for the following seasons but that can't be helped really. That's why I suggested the additional cap for signing free agents if your clan requires extra members
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16:23 Tue 16 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
dgeneratio said:

i dont think we should raise the limit tbh.

league atm - about 50% of players from teamlist can be subbed in (if teamlist is full)
cup atm - over 60% of players from teamlist can be subbed in (if teamlist is full)

should be more than enough to get any game completed.

poaching can't be helped but your top line can stop them, or the transfer period we have on snooker.


League - 47%
Cup - 67%

I was suggesting maybe making it 14 from the starting and allowing room for maybe 2/3/4 free agents to be signed during the course of the season if other players become inactive. With players not being allowed to transfer clans during a season at all this would remove the conundrum of a player being removed from a clan, his spot being filled and him being stuck without a clan.

If you get what I mean.
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16:26 Tue 16 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
i did say around and over
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16:27 Tue 16 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
surely though the less players u have in one team the more clans can be made and isnt that what we actually want ?
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16:29 Tue 16 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
mattywellie said:
surely though the less players u have in one team the more clans can be made and isnt that what we actually want ?


No because there just aren't enough reliable captains out there, hence why the numbers in a clan have gradually been increasing over the seasons, to try make clans more reliable and less prone to folding.
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16:29 Tue 16 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Yeah each clan should own up to their mistakes, as I do for mine ;-)

By the way, more players, more subs, less defaults.

Primary School maths that peeps.
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16:30 Tue 16 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
yeah more clans the better in my eyes, shouldnt be raised anymore than 15-16 imo if it does then clan numbers may be a joke.

i remember before my clan league came in there was 25-30 members in several clans and i dont want this league to go in that direction, should be 12-16 maximum.
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16:32 Tue 16 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
I think this season we've kind of reached the point where we want to be with regards, to team size limit, subs, swaps etc.... as I've explained with the reduced amount of defaults.

There have just been issues with players wanting to transfer clans during the season, that's been the real talking point
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16:41 Tue 16 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
could just make a new rule about not transferring clans during a season, or can do snookers idea of a transfer window in middle of season
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16:43 Tue 16 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
jimmy_efc_ said:
Yeah each clan should own up to their mistakes, as I do for mine ;-)

By the way, more players, more subs, less defaults.

Primary School maths that peeps.

also means less clans.
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16:45 Tue 16 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
kev04 said:
dgeneratio said:

league atm - about 50% of players from teamlist can be subbed in (if teamlist is full)
cup atm - over 60% of players from teamlist can be subbed in (if teamlist is full)

should be more than enough to get any game completed.


League - 47%
Cup - 67%

stats look good to me.

plus as kev said 4 defaults so far which is almost an all time low
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