Time limits for micros

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eemad
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23:03 Wed 15 Jun 11 (BST)  [Link]  
ipotalot said:
jimfaebod said:
Irrespective of whether or not it is 10 seconds per shot, the emphasis is that there still remains tactical play and overall 8 minutes in which to complete that individual frame!


If you've got twice as long to take your shot games take twice as long obviously


Possibly one of the worst thought out points I've seen in a while.

So if it was a 5 second game it would be twice as quick as a 10 second game? I very much doubt that, and the same applies for 10 to 20 seconds!
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23:07 Wed 15 Jun 11 (BST)  [Link]  
eemad said:
ipotalot said:
jimfaebod said:
Irrespective of whether or not it is 10 seconds per shot, the emphasis is that there still remains tactical play and overall 8 minutes in which to complete that individual frame!


If you've got twice as long to take your shot games take twice as long obviously


Possibly one of the worst thought out points I've seen in a while.

So if it was a 5 second game it would be twice as quick as a 10 second game? I very much doubt that, and the same applies for 10 to 20 seconds!


Don't come on the offensive without engaging your brain cell.
20 second games rake more than twice as long as 10 second games because you have thinking time, play more tactically and leave nothing for your opponent....as well as having twice as long to take your shot.
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11:55 Thu 16 Jun 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Er, thats what Damee was saying
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14:32 Thu 16 Jun 11 (BST)  [Link]  
spinner said:
Er, thats what Damee was saying


Doubt it seeing as though the original comment he took a line from to attack had those points in the same sentence he chopped.
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12:01 Mon 27 Jun 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Micro UK Final
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ipotalot DQ - DQ aldrich FT

Ran out of time about to pot the black again!
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13:46 Mon 27 Jun 11 (BST)  [Link]  
ipotalot said:
eemad said:
ipotalot said:
jimfaebod said:
Irrespective of whether or not it is 10 seconds per shot, the emphasis is that there still remains tactical play and overall 8 minutes in which to complete that individual frame!


If you've got twice as long to take your shot games take twice as long obviously


Possibly one of the worst thought out points I've seen in a while.

So if it was a 5 second game it would be twice as quick as a 10 second game? I very much doubt that, and the same applies for 10 to 20 seconds!


Don't come on the offensive without engaging your brain cell.
20 second games rake more than twice as long as 10 second games because you have thinking time, play more tactically and leave nothing for your opponent....as well as having twice as long to take your shot.


You're under the assumption that every user plays more tactical when playing 20 second game rather than 10 second games, which is just wrong. I can assure you when I play, 10 seconds games take just as long, if not longer than 20 second games, as I play more tactically in a 10 second game, and I know quite a few other are the same.

When playing a 20 second game, how many actually use even 10 seconds for the majority of their shots?
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14:11 Mon 27 Jun 11 (BST)  [Link]  
The point is that in UK especially games do sometimes get tactical. When you are playing race to 2 or 3 as in normal tournaments games probably go over all the time but because the time limit is multiplied by the maximum frames played 1 tactical match doesn't affect anything.
In micros it's just one frame so 1 tactical game leads to a double DQ like I have given 4/5 examples of in this thread.
There would be no negative affect in adding another minute or 2 to the limit.
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14:24 Mon 27 Jun 11 (BST)  [Link]  
what good will 2 minutes add to it though? people can use the time tactically no matter what time it says
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14:32 Mon 27 Jun 11 (BST)  [Link]  
From my experiences in these 4/5 games they would have all been finished with an extra minute, easily with 2.
It's just about prising the opening to clear up, sometimes takes a little bit longer.
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14:35 Mon 27 Jun 11 (BST)  [Link]  
ipotalot said:
There would be no negative affect in adding another minute or 2 to the limit.


Until the next time an incident happens again and the same thing is said adding a couple of min will do no harm, to the point where the game has a ridiculous time limit and would take forever to complete.

The double DQ is a rare situation, not often it happens.

EDIT: Just looked at the last several tournys and could only find one double DQ (straight tourny) which is unforgivable for straight, but it does show it doesn't happen often.

Edited at 11:40 Mon 27/06/11 (BST)
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15:14 Mon 27 Jun 11 (BST)  [Link]  
We're talking specifically about micros. Have explained why it's a problem in those rather than tournaments.
Rules are 360 seconds x maximum frames
in a tournament you can have 2 frames go over and not get a DQ because you will always get 1 quick frame!
I've given you plenty of examples in the last couple of months all micro UK finals so it is a problem.
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16:07 Mon 27 Jun 11 (BST)  [Link]  
i still dont see the issue, micro is meant to be quick like speed if not quicker than speed as its suppose to last 30 mins or less for whole tournament (roughly 10 mins per round but thats more than enough), if you are double DQ you both don't lose rank anyway, only thing it does is cost you a chance to progress to later stages but thats the price, you know what time the tournament is when the round starts.

you could gain the rank back in normal play just takes twice as long due to rank scale.
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16:28 Mon 27 Jun 11 (BST)  [Link]  
micro just means it's an 8 person tournament.
Round times are 6 minutes so don't know where you get 10 from
The problem is you're just about to win 112 tournapoints and you run out of time, the problem is there isn't enough time to finish the match properly after you've just won in the quarters and semis.
It can be rectified so easily, doesn't affect anyone negatively think the arguments against are ridiculous.
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16:57 Mon 27 Jun 11 (BST)  [Link]  
i got the 10 from 30 divided by 3 as there are 3 rounds.

112 tournapoints isn't much to be honest and all tournapoints is is how much time you spend on tournaments nothing more as some of the best on both sites doesn't enter tournaments and if they did the situation with tournapoints would be different (e.g same people winning).

i still don't see an issue with the time limit as micro is suppose to be a quick tournament for those who can only come online for 20-30 minutes and cannot play the hourly ones.
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17:10 Mon 27 Jun 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Look at the winners for day, week and month events. The tournapoints events are some of the hardest things to win on here.
You can spend as much time on tournaments as you want, doesn't matter if you don't win them!!

Don't think your opinion on what micros are supposed to be for or the way the games should be played are gospel.
It's still a quick tournament done in half an hour with 8 minutes per round just you actually get them all done without double DQ's
Only the odd game would go over the 6 minutes...an extra minute or 2 affects nothing negatively!!
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14:16 Sat 30 Jul 11 (BST)  [Link]  
id bring the time limit down
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23:20 Sat 30 Jul 11 (BST)  [Link]  
ipotalot said:
micro just means it's an 8 person tournament.
Round times are 6 minutes so don't know where you get 10 from
The problem is you're just about to win 112 tournapoints and you run out of time, the problem is there isn't enough time to finish the match properly after you've just won in the quarters and semis.
It can be rectified so easily, doesn't affect anyone negatively think the arguments against are ridiculous.


tell you wat m8 i will start doing uk tornis again and you have to worry about getting the the final.. problem solved lol
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00:27 Sun 31 Jul 11 (BST)  [Link]  
no1sp3ci4l said:
ipotalot said:
micro just means it's an 8 person tournament.
Round times are 6 minutes so don't know where you get 10 from
The problem is you're just about to win 112 tournapoints and you run out of time, the problem is there isn't enough time to finish the match properly after you've just won in the quarters and semis.
It can be rectified so easily, doesn't affect anyone negatively think the arguments against are ridiculous.


tell you wat m8 i will start doing uk tornis again and you have to worry about getting the the final.. problem solved lol


Another mouthy up themself idiot...really worried
I can beat anyone on here when i'm at my best, can lose to anyone on here too.
I've taken frames off onua and all the top players at UK so believe me you really are no-one special just another egotistical muppet
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01:29 Sun 31 Jul 11 (BST)  [Link]  
he has the skills to back it up, much like myself
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01:38 Sun 31 Jul 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Lol only time we've played your favourite game you only beat me 2-1 because you had a paddy and I got too involved with the argument...and with all your years and years of experience against this lowly noob too
Like I said i'm capable of beating anyone as is everyone frankly, the arrogant ones are always funny with their little tantrums when they lose
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