Agree what is best for league is what matters,

yeah why dont you all post about rules on clan league site to make league better.

not everyone has access

yes hence why a new default system or maybe where all captains join a room and see the info available and make a decision...or maybe the 2 teams involved could maybe decide a fair result between the 2 although i know could be done tactically

they do kenny if they register, its under general chat so everyone can see.

some dont want to register,

and this is a league disscussion forum

hey i put my view over, on there but i fill u get more imput if on here

Doesn't matter what default system you come up with, league runners will always get grief because the result has to go against someone.
13th season of the FCL and I think theres been a default debate every season, unless someone can come up with a solution this won't change.
I don't think captains should be doing defaults, you say they don't do their own but they do others that could affect their clans position in the league.
Ideal situation would be no defaults but next would be a panel of non league players with a bit of time on their hands, but who wants to give up their time just to get grief all the time.

I agree with Alan here.

I dont mind Captains doing the defaults though, i know me i will give a fair default to any team even if it is against Crazy, i think the other Captains in default do the same IMO

Im not saying captains wouldn't be fair but lets take away any arguments and doubts people have about the fairness of the defaults, as long as captains are doing them people will question fairness.

I think they would be questioned even if it was a non captain to be honest.

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A problem with captains doing defaults is that there are so many captains these days with new clans springing up left right and centre. There should just be a set amount of default staff imo.

[QUOTE=flawless][QUOTE=red4ever]the 17_m default, 2 predicted 9-6 and 2 predicted 10-5 so average was 10-5 to you on that default.

as for astonished he was on same amount of time as ccfc but some of us took kirks refusal into account.

if you really want to continue this chat go to discussion thread as its not meant to be on clan chat threads

[U][B]tbh i dont think kirk refused for that game was the earlier clan match[/U][/B]..even so was subbed out first day so should of mattered...anyways my last opinion on this as i aint been planning to be capt for next season anyways

would it really been same result if kirk refused against poolsharks the answer is no[/QUOTE]

I just checked around kirk refused to play a league match, we are talking cup match and he played his last one but refused this one i think with what was said on forum only kirk can tell us if he did or not!

Another thing _astonished_ had a game in your last cup match that also went to default and he lost that 10 - 5, so why play a player who did not complete there last one to be honest.[/QUOTE]

What exactly did i refuse? idiots.

[QUOTE=_k1rk_][QUOTE=flawless][QUOTE=red4ever]the 17_m default, 2 predicted 9-6 and 2 predicted 10-5 so average was 10-5 to you on that default.

as for astonished he was on same amount of time as ccfc but some of us took kirks refusal into account.

if you really want to continue this chat go to discussion thread as its not meant to be on clan chat threads

[U][B]tbh i dont think kirk refused for that game was the earlier clan match[/U][/B]..even so was subbed out first day so should of mattered...anyways my last opinion on this as i aint been planning to be capt for next season anyways

would it really been same result if kirk refused against poolsharks the answer is no[/QUOTE]

I just checked around kirk refused to play a league match, we are talking cup match and he played his last one but refused this one i think with what was said on forum only kirk can tell us if he did or not!

Another thing _astonished_ had a game in your last cup match that also went to default and he lost that 10 - 5, so why play a player who did not complete there last one to be honest.[/QUOTE]

What exactly did i refuse? idiots.[/QUOTE]

Don't call me an idiot [:'(] haha

Nah i looked and seen you refused to play a game of some sort, IMO it was a league game but you also left the clan so i was assuming that what the reason, if i am wrong tell me i will gladly apologise hunni [:)]

People get subbed out all the time does that mean they refused, i had no option to play as i had family problems and stuff i couldnt play and i left the clan cos i wont be able to for the rest of this season. It's making me sound like i did it out of pettyness or something. If i could have played i would have i don't even know what game as i aint really been paying attention.

well i dont check clan threads, i only go by the info which was given which stated you refused to play.

Who did i refuse to play then? please enlighten me with your "information"

im not one to take info from clan league site.

The problem you have with 'closed' default discussions is that you risk individuals with access to these discussions being able to supply information for consideration that cannot be seen by other interested parties to the default discussion (ie the opposing team), and consequently the truthfulness of that information cannot therefore be independently tested.

Ideally you need open default discussion forums - ie that can be read by all even if they cannot be commented on by all...

...Or else you need a representative from each and every clan in the closed default discussion forum.