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21:46 Mon 28 Nov 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
Use it at me if you like craig i've always got all my games done in the first week even if i've had 5
Don't think the games being arranged usually causes hassle just some people love to antagonise constantly, banter is an excuse in some cases because you only have real banter with people you get on with.
doubted2
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22:04 Mon 28 Nov 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
id like dgen and jays

comments on who decides warnings and a list of rules tht warrant disiplinarys being handed out and full criteria
whocares8x8
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22:06 Mon 28 Nov 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
Whoever thinks that league runners are "dictators" should probably not be playing in this league. League runners put in a lot of time to allow everyone else to play clan games- they don't profit and don't gain anything by being "dictators".

Yes to the new system. It should all still depend on the severity of the offense. And yes, league runners should have the power to remove players from the league in certain cases.

If you're uncomfortable with league runners making such decisions, then let the default panel do it. There are I think more than 5 members in the default panel, so abuse would be fairly difficult. I'm happy with league runners making these decision though.

This is not necessarily a case for admin/mods. For example, warnings should be given for abandoning/conceding clan games. Obviously, it's not against site rules to abandon games, so mods would not be able to do anything here.
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22:08 Mon 28 Nov 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
Bring back the birch i say , failing that whatever happened to good old national service
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22:11 Mon 28 Nov 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
i like this idea coming for a person that never argues on here though..... whats the point like were all here cause we love the game, not to argue
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22:12 Mon 28 Nov 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
whocares8x8 said:
Whoever thinks that league runners are "dictators" should probably not be playing in this league. League runners put in a lot of time to allow everyone else to play clan games- they don't profit and don't gain anything by being "dictators".

Yes to the new system. It should all still depend on the severity of the offense. And yes, league runners should have the power to remove players from the league in certain cases.

If you're uncomfortable with league runners making such decisions, then let the default panel do it. There are I think more than 5 members in the default panel, so abuse would be fairly difficult. I'm happy with league runners making these decision though.

This is not necessarily a case for admin/mods. For example, warnings should be given for abandoning/conceding clan games. Obviously, it's not against site rules to abandon games, so mods would not be able to do anything here.


Agreed 100%
ab_rfc
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22:27 Mon 28 Nov 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
The clan league is run by the league runners and therefore are entitled to have a say in how members playing in the league act/behave, this is only the 2nd fixture set and theres already been too much petty arguing between certain clans, If the league runners want to have league rules for members behaviour I'm all for it.
No need for any panels, league runners run the league, its their decision.

Craig and Lee, answer this,
what would you do if you were running an event on here and the players were always arguing ?

Craig, mods and admin will intervene when funkypool rules are broken.
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22:34 Mon 28 Nov 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
I said it's needed alan, just would rather have a seperate panel for it....sorry for having an opinion different to yours.
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22:39 Mon 28 Nov 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
Just to clarify as well I just want a few people in on big decisions like this so league runners plus default panel would be good.
ab_rfc
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22:40 Mon 28 Nov 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
why should it have a seperate panel, league runners should decide what is acceptable and give out punishment accordingly, obviously discussed between them first, thats why they are called league runners.

Would you run an event and let others decide what happens in that event ?
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22:49 Mon 28 Nov 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
League has been going 14 seasons? Only one league runner has been doing it for more than 2 sets of fixtures, I would be happier having a panel if the league runners are on it then fine as I said before but a few more opinions on situations is beneficial.
They are just ordinary people alan and everyone builds up pre-conceived ideas and have people they get on with and don't.
bluenose1872
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23:04 Mon 28 Nov 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
I have read the above and took it on board. I may comment later on it as just now im enjoying my in game time.

I would like to say though that even though i do not get on with some people within the league, i myself do not bring that dislike or hatred in to any decision i make as a league runner. When i am doing league stuff i will act as a runner, but outside of the league ill act as myself.
doubted2
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23:32 Mon 28 Nov 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
seb i appreciate what league runners do and im well aware of their committment, so dont need reminding thankyou

alan there was a case today were a league runner came onto thread, edited a post i made reminded me of naming and shaming went on another thread and did the same

i had a moderator check my post there was nothing wrong with it at all

i didnt name and shame i made a compliment. to player28

the 2 questions here are simple

1) that is interclan craick, why does a league runner need to do a mod / admin job ,,, it was in no breach of any rules,

2) could a warning be given ,

that is what im saying so please ppl dont bend my words to suit
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08:54 Tue 29 Nov 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
Wasn't suggesting you would make biased decisions jay and wasn't any digs in that comment. Just responding to sebs and alan's posts. Yes the league runners do a lot of work for us all and we're all grateful for that but it's still everybody's league not just theirs and a few extra points of view on these decisions wouldn't go amiss was all I was saying and as you already have people on board for defaults seems you could yourself, dgen and the defaults comittee together to make extra sure you have seen everything before handing out warnings, docking points etc..
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11:38 Tue 29 Nov 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
any chance of updating FCL tables please

i have offered to do this,,,,, its confusing ...still as it hasnt been updated

and has division 2 been checked
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13:14 Tue 29 Nov 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
doubted2 said:

1) that is interclan craick, why does a league runner need to do a mod / admin job ,,, it was in no breach of any rules,

2) could a warning be given ,

that is what im saying so please ppl dont bend my words to suit


Some people seem to forget what the league runners put in, it causes you no harm personally and it wasn't aimed at you - no real need to respond like that

There was a simple mistake made on behalf of the league runner, who has probably been used to having to wade through pointless arguments and sarcastic comments, one mistake by him isn't the same as that clan being persecuted - thats a ludicrous claim.

If normal members can intervene in a situation before mods/admin get involved, is it not better as long as its sensible? If it stops an argument then its all good, because "you're not a mod" is just a pathetic excuse to continue arguing after someone has asked you to stop.

League runners would be able to deal with situations outside that of mods/admin, or intervene before them. All a mod will do is edit posts, remove posting rights or cap the thread, with the last two being potentially harmful to the clan

And the warning would not have been given, because it would have been reviewed with the honest mistake (without any malice) being clear to see.
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19:52 Tue 29 Nov 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
doubted2 said:
any chance of updating FCL tables please

i have offered to do this,,,,, its confusing ...still as it hasnt been updated

and has division 2 been checked

Will do it now, please feel free to point out any mistakes though shattered so bound make some
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20:12 Tue 29 Nov 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
Yeah, i wasnt confident enough to make the changes, i wasnt here for that fixture set, rest assured me and liam will sort things out so that the next fixture set results are updated more easily and less confusing
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20:13 Tue 29 Nov 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
I'll speak to James about the above when his computer is working (has a virus or something i was told)
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20:48 Tue 29 Nov 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
UPDATE:

liam__scfc will be updating all division 1 information such as:
Results
Tables
Golden Cue

theukspoon will be updating all division 2 information such as:
Results
Tables
Golden Cue

The clan cup will be updated by both of us due to it contributing to golden cue in both divisions

Any mistakes spotted after tommorow, post here or message us directly.

James (dgen) i need a word with you mate when you got chance
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