this may not be a bad thing but.....
i have noticed that alot of people are getting high ranks now in 9us most people are virtuoso and it just seems unreal to me, say your 870 you used to be atleast 26th with that now your way down with it.
i personally think it is too easy and i think it should be eliminated from fp.
Or take the combination rule away that seems to make people win alot.

This has been mentioned a lot of times, search before you post...

9 ball is great, when you have the luck with you.
It may be easy, but hard to others. It depends on the person, personally i find 9 ball and uk easy. Others may have other opinnions. Just because you don't like it, don't complain about it, play another game type then.

Next time look at past threads as this been mentioned alot, or use 'contact us'.

~Chris

simple answer for you: don't play it if you don't like it

and the combo rule is in the real game so why should we move it off here because it's too "easy" to win, that's what 9balls about mate, there is a certain element of luck but also skill

as for the getting to virtuoso fair play to everyone who has, it's not as easy as you're making out mate, yeah if you wanna make it harder change the amount of points to make it slightly harder, it hasn't been made any easier thats for sure so it just shows how much better the elite players are getting, it'd be stupid to take it away from fp altogether, because it is a game in real life for a start and one of the most popular pool games in the world if not the most popular

okay thanks guys

Another thing: Rank is just a number. Whether the top 10 players are around 850 or around 950 makes no difference - the best are the best regardless of what the number may be.

And yes, 9 ball has a bigger luck element than most games, but as all things, luck evens out over time and the best players are the one topping the tables too, over time.

agreed, but that doesn't mean there isn't an element of skill about it too, if you can't play a decent snooker when you're in trouble, or hit that pressure shot, you are well and truly stuck

So although Jan makes the points of luck being involved, you're both in fundamental agreement that skill and skillful players go hand in hand as far as the ranking tables are concerned. The players in the top 10 will have had as much luck as everyone else. Skill accounts for the rest of it; the vastly larger part of it, in fact.

Absolutely true - and even if the luck factor was 99% and the skill part was only 1%, even then, the luck would even out over time and that final percentage would be the determining aspect

And 90 or more of 9 ball is skill anyway - at least between skilled players. Hit-and-hope only goes so far, fortunately.

yeah

couldn't of said it any better myself

virt is really tough to get to in 9 ball

only 8 players have it atm

and when you get it - as I did last night - it is the toughest to hold on to i reckon because of the luck factor

1 lucky plant against an 800 rank and you lose 7 ranking points

If your gonna slate the 9 ball rankings that its to easy to get to virt shouldnt you get there first?

I don't see how it is too easy i know iv struggled to get near, regardless luck or skill.

I hear ya, I've tried a few times and haven't got there yet

It's a lot easier to reach 900 ranking on 9ball than 8Ball UK.

At least reaching a high rank on UK is something of an accomplishment, but on 9ball it's all flukes & luck.

Hardly any skill involved really.

Maybe for you reaching 900 at 9ball is easier, or 'flukes and luck', doesn't go for everyone though.

my sentiments exactly

a rank of 870 would get you 27th place now so it's pretty damn close to "what it used to be" if you ask me

Attaining the rank of 900 in amy discipline is an achievement for anyone and by no means an easy task.

It is irrespective whether it be 8 ball US, UK, 9 ball, killer or straight.

Not everyone will manage anywhere neare virtuoso, so Im sure that you shouldnt have concerns.

There is no need for personal desires, that 9 ball be removed or an amendment to current rules. As has been previously mentioned, if you dont like it, you dont have to play it!!

i hate 9ball myself, but at the same time i love it, if your bored and off form you just play us9 and hit and hope, get a win streak and your confidence and moral comes back for you to carry on elsewhere

9 Ball is a one ball game, fact.

Its the hardest game to be a 'virtuoso' at in my opinion because its a game where anyone can snatch a win from one shot, thus making it a lottery.

The 5 point loss for a 1/9 combination or vice versa is pretty annoying..