aarond has sent me a message saying that he has replaced aliq.

I cant be very specific about when I'm available to play him, got quite a bit on this weekend, but I will endeavour to get these completed, hopefully this evening, I'm skint in anyways so its a couple of tinnies at home night!!


EDIT:

Not too sure on the rules of substitution use, seems a bit late in the day for a change though. Not that I'm bothered, I'd prefer to play someone, but can someone let me know the ruling?

Edited at 08:09 Sat 20/06/09 (BST)

I think you'll just get the default win in this instance kel, which is a shame if you're willing to play the game. Normally substitutions aren't allowed after the first week that fixtures are released.

subs rule changed mate, as far as i know you can use 1 sub at any time against each clan, worth checking it out.

I knew someone would say that

From the current rules, this is all I can find on the topic of subs (so apparently not updated):

"If a player is banned or deactivates on the Monday or Tuesday, we will allow a sub to fill in. If this happens after Tuesday, an 8-0 default win will be awarded to the opponent."

This seems to require an update.


I agree that one sub vs each clan is ok and fair for all. When the replacement is made this late in the fixture tho, this fact should greatly colour the outcome of a default - and I'm sure it will.

I'm strongly opposed to defaults tending to "take off the sharp edges" and granting 8-0 or similar tho.

In the cases where the outcome is fairly one-sided (only one player has been on at all, or like in this case, having a replacement made very late, leaving literally no time at all to get it played), a 10-0 is the right call.

Remember that points gained is extremely important in the overall tables and that players who are not to blame for not getting their games done should never be suffering from that fact.

Well ppl mentioned bein more relaxed with subs we have been adam sed subs anytime but ppl doin so at this late stage is silly but thats there choice and it can only lead to dissapointment if defaults go against them if games arent played after there subbing.

them rules are for last season jan

i posted u could sub 1 person a fixture.

as for updating subs rule i have been too busy moving home so ill msg adam and ask him to sort this

I completely agree with the current sub rules Steph - I have been one of its strongest promoters. But we need those on the web page asap - as long as we have a rule section there, people need to be able to rely on them.

i cant do website only adam and dave can put them bits on there i can do fixtures an teams send adam a msg and ask him to update when he gets a moment :)

I cant do it, Dave only can do that.......his to do list is still long and he hasnt been on in a while

Might have to move the site to Phil's host, if Dave doesnt catch up soon

Ill sort dave out dw :)

aarond said he will be on all sunday so shud be played then

Still no show, what happens when it gets put down as default?

he normaly comes on around 4ish

But similarly neither should any of the other teams in the league be suffering which they do if its a blanket 10-0 in such a situation. Surely there needs to be some sort of consideration of what a likely score might have been had the match been played factored into the decision too? A mix of 'pools panel' and default scoring if you like.

Its not an easy thing to resolve granted - but it would really be a lot simpler and less of a problem if the default score only affected the two teams involved. But to do that it must be the team match results that go to the league table not the individual results.

only posting this here as the relevant discussion seems to be here rather than in the designated thread....

Well, yes they should. It might not seem immediately fair, but keep this in mind: The player who didn't get a chance to play his match lost the chance to prove he/she could do a 10 point win.

The concern of others is entirely secondary here and should not be taken into account at all.

(and yes, that obviously goes for ALL default considerations, including those where this particular clan is not involved)

In the long run, it is (or should be) the same for all.

What we most definitely can NOT do, is to have the hosts/jury settling defaults based on "by how much it is likely that player A would have beaten player B if the game had been played".

Well, seems a little internal clan posting pulled in a few others too, and voila! You have a debate going

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Unfortunately that shows a complete lack of understanding of how to run a fair competition for this type of event.





Agreed - and a good job no one proposed that.

Glad you think so.

Now move on.

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