The reason i made this thread is because i reading the dedications thread and i saw a reply saying "thankz"

Now some people would say oh no big deal?
But surely moving your finger not even a centimetre on your qwerty keyboard to put the s and spell it correctly wont kill you!

Which got me thinking... What are the youth of today actually doing in school, all you ever hear about todays youth is murders or crime!

Okay im only 18 but i did actually listen in school and got good grades and now training to become an accountant, it wasnt that hard all you need is concentration. So why cant school kids put 6 hours a day for 5 days a week and get a good job good house good life instead of pretending to be bad and "gangster like"

Surely if we found a way to solve their attitudes it would also bring a big slash in crime too.

However that was just my view out of thin air and i needed that rant! i also put it here because it addresses a few things that need sorting in this country

Lol, mich the education minister.

Anyway I agree schools are going down hill, and it doesn't help that these kids have stupid names like chardonay and lilly-crystal. These kids have no chance because of their parents.

Bare in mind thats my personal view.

And all because you say a THANKZ!

Im Sure they know how to spell Thanks Mich, its just the way the type isnt it!

I dont think what they get taught in school has the slightest relevence to 'TXT TYPE' mate..but thats just my opinion.

Half the kids who DO work hard at school, still be 'gangster like' Peer pressure.

As for attitude solving slashing crime
<insert confused smily>
Even some of the most well educated, sane minded, people with good attitudes have comitted crimes..we read about it all the time.

~Paula~

I feel strongly about this too, such that I added the rule in the forum I moderate.

http://www.funkypool.com/viewTopic.do?topicid=10619

All true Paula, but "TXT TYPE" Is used to shorten words not make them the same length but put different letters in.

I know the last bit is true about well educated people etc committing crimes however i would think that there is a higher % committed by youths trying to look big in front of their mates!

While being half-way through my GCSEs, I can give you a full run down on what we are being taught at school, unfortunately, it will take up about 10 posts .


What I can tell you as that we are being taught about the dangers of drugs, violence, sex etc. In a lesson called PSE (Personal and Social Education).

That lesson is used to get us ready for the outside world.

At our school, we frequently have workshops preparing us for work, the most recent one being "interview techniques" and how to "answer the phone in an office".

They are really interesting, but, unfortunately, many people choose to ignore such lessons. I, myself, listen intensively, as I have high hopes on what I want to do as my job (A Doctor or Medical Researcher )

School isnt a total waste, but many schools may not be of a great quality, and so the youth may be very uneducated in that area.

I find myself lucky I managed to get into a very good school and I benefit from it.

Theres a difference between the "fashionable" bebo/myspace/facebook etc etc "talk" and txtspk.

I have a strong dislike for those kind of sites even though hypocritically i have a couple of sites on there mainly for band promotion purposes. Theres no question they are good, promotional tools.

I dont mind txtspk in texts, but its pointless online.


Regarding crime, peer pressure is definitely a large part, and its not always pressure from outside. I actually know someone my age (who i no longer talk to) who boasted about her son carrying a knife. He was 8.

Todays education system is generally great, but kids need to be motivated to get the best of it, and if that doesnt come from home, it can be hard for them to motivate themselves.

Edited at 17:50 Fri 8/08/08 (BST)

To stop violence, we just need to show the future culprits the consequences of their actions.

If they knew what would happen to them, like the guilt and the prison sentence, then it would act as a deterrent.

If you are 16 and get put in prison for 12 years, you have wasted and missed the best parts of your life. They really need to show that "coolness" isnt everything, and they need to be shown an alternate route.

Kids just need to be taught about the damage they are causing and the consequences they will face

Mich ~ SORRY! My Mistake...i get what you mean..THANKS to THANKZ is pretty pointless!!

I did, however mention 'Peer Pressure' as did Spinner..excatly the same as acting big in front of mates.

We are ALWAYS going to get some sort of crime and violence no matter how/what we teach the next generation. Look at the deterents weve had in the past (Hanging etc) hasnt stopped law breaking before sad to say.

mich u need to gt ova yaself. tx spk is wkd init. sves bare time whn im typng posts on the forum ya get me. yoots r stil lrning at skool man, they jst lrn otha fings now yh?


lmao

i think text speak is hard to read too, its rare i use it in texts never mind proper sentences :D

Mike, i think weve established the txt speak lol (<< or should i say Laughing out loud??)

Getting back to education cutting crime, the brainiest of the brainiest could snap at some point in their lives and be violent to protect or w/e..We cant predict others or their actions, we can only try to discourage.

I know but the best thing we can do is to try and find a solution to cut less crime from youths and show them how bad things really could be (as Sm_rat said) Maybe they should bring back national service, not saying it will cut crime much but would learn them respect for themselves and others and how bad life can be!

I think it would be great, and would willfully do mine now if it were introduced.

Regarding punishments and jail terms, "doing time" is now, amazingly, another thing to brag about.

I've seen local kids smiling and being cheered as they're dragged away to prison.

I find it very hard to undestand how people can be like that, its either incomprehensable ignorance or they genuinely have something seriously wrong with them.

The fact is sentences are just too short these days. No jail sentence should be shorter than 5 years, for anything. However, sadly, in this day and age even the general public seem to have a hard time understanding the concept of being held accountable for one's actions, mostly fuelled by the press and some "human rights" supporters.

I firmly believe the human rights people who sympathise with these people are those who simply like to cause, and be involved in, controversy.

Nobody who genuinely cared about the rights of their fellow humans would ever consider helping these people get close to any of them any quicker.

Edited at 18:34 Fri 8/08/08 (BST)

There were fewer repeat offenders though

Seriously, for serious crimes of the type all to common now where there is irrefutable proof (pictures/videos etc) i would fully support capital punishment.

To be honest, I agree with what's being said about kids, but I'm always amazed how bad adults are with punctuation and grammar and all that malarky. Not asking for Shakespeare or Oxford University level English here people... but ffs... learn how to use a bleedin' comma (nearly used willy balloon word) and full stop.

Just been watching the bbc news...

When you get caught on a Manchester Metro tram with no ticket you get fined £80 on the spot and a possible prison sentence should you not pay in 21 days...

The next story was about 3 16 year olds got caught for criminal damage and got nothing more than a slap on the wrist

My point is why imprison someone for riding a tram for 5 minutes and not for criminal damage?

I think the tram fines are fine... make sense. But when a 16 year old creates criminal damage... they should be punished. No question about it.

But you've opened a can of worms there michy boy. There are so many things that make no sense when it comes to criminal justice.A bloke in Kent got 10 years the other week for raping a child and committing other acts on other kids. That is ridiculous.

dave- do you think 5 years would be an acceptable punishment for all crimes then? Even if its a minor offence like not paying a speeding ticket? lol

It will never happen, especially while we have overcrowded prisons. We cant fit any more criminals in the current amount of jails and judges are encouraged not to send people to prison.
Jail isnt a big deal for most people round my way anyway. Its like a scout badge. You do Y.O.I and get an ASBO and your just another boy. Big man jail is the next step and if you survive that, then 9/10 people are a hell of a lot worse than before they went to Y.O.I.

The whole system needs a radical overhaul before prison can be considered a proper punishment

And there ya have it Mich!!

So HOW do we try teach these kids with exapmles like that?


Spinner ~ Same here...AND.. theres Druggies who WANT to go to jail cos its somewhere for them to stay!! Its mad!

OH!!! and did you read how many prisoners were released on 'tag' last week because the prisons are over-run??

I wasn't coming up with the answers just pointing out something that does need sorting