Smurf, although the thought of that being true was funny it isn't true! Celtic have dropped from 11th to 16th seed (Rangers are 11th) however the actual co-efficient standing does make interesting reading (drawn out of performances from the last 5 seasons in Europe) Rangers have a co-efficient of 56.028 and Celtic's is 39.528 which means that Rangers are contributing nearly 150% of the input to the Scottish European places that Celtic are...... interesting indeed.

Maybe if the co-efficients only benefitted individual clubs when they qualify for Europe Celtic would try a bit harder and put a better management team in place to get them further in Europe???

Edited at 13:41 Thu 04/08/11 (BST)

This means we WILL be in different pots for the group stage draw.

Hopefully Hearts will also qualify, would be nice to see 3 teams in Europe at least.

always a sign the bears are hurting when the WATP phrase comes out the closet lol

what does it actually mean anyway , your sort of people ( which ever that may be , as you claim you are the people) are the superior race or something?

thanks for the advice m8 but am not planning on SHUTTING UP just yet

How funny would it be if Hearts Celtic and Rangers ended up in the same group?

I don't think the same country ruling applies in Europa league does it?

I keep forgetting they have these 4 team groups now, not the 6 team ones, which were so much better!

Well your team have been incapable of hoisting UP the flag in recent seasons...... also rans!!!

a year to prove he is good enough to come back and win a place in the side

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14406186.stm

Well done Hearts. Fantastic result

Play-off draw tomorrow at 12.30pm. Here's hoping all Scottish teams get through to the Group Stage

http://videocelts.com/2011/08/blogs/dundee-united-and-rangers-go-public-over-goodwillie

Apparently it does.

Country Protection
In the European Champions League and the Europa League, UEFA has a rule that protects clubs from the same European country from playing each other in the earlier rounds of a tournament. This rule dissipates once the competition reaches the quarterfinal stage. This rule, combined with a seeding rule which lets the best teams avoid each other, makes the drawing of matches quite complex in the early rounds.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/430246-uefa-rules-for-soccer/

Oh well!

Welcome back Kyle

http://www.rangers.co.uk/articles/20110804/exclusive-bartley-back_2254024_2410601

the WARCHEST has been opened lol

No matter what you say, manwee, I for one am delighted to have Bartley back at Ibrox (regardless of whether it is a loan or a more expensive transfer). He played a very important part in our campaign last season and was unfortunate to get injured during the PSV game.

Good to see Bartley back.

Great to see him back, unless the rules have changed i'm sure players on loan players can play for the champions. I am sure that Robbie Keane was hailed by the Tic fans and he was a loan player although not playin for champions of chuff all.

http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/season=2012/draws/index.html

No Scottish teams drawn as yet, but will be posted as soon as drawn.

Hearts v Tottenham!

Rangers v Maribor

Celtic v Sion.

Edited at 13:03 Fri 05/08/11 (BST)

il have to support tottenham for that rangers and sion to win as well