Operation human sheild, hahaha

Get Bill Gates in Hyar!

Bill Gates, you told us Windows 98 would be faster with better access to the internet!

It is faster, over 5 million...BANG!

Edited at 09:46 Thu 13/03/08 (GMT)

That is, 100% seriously, a brilliant idea.

Well yeah, the army are constantly making TV adverts because of a shortage of people signing up... so why not kill two birds with one stone?

people that are forced to go in the army would be no use at all, but would give them some valuable lessons.

Never did us? Or do you speak for everyone? Discipline can be taught in many ways, through violence is not the way though.
My dad and some other family members have told me some horror stories about over-eager headmasters over disciplining them. I'm not saying that all headmasters were like this, but I'm gonna bet a majority were! Hitting a child who can understand what they've done wrong just doesn't make any sense.

As you state, it's almost a right of passage for the 'hard nuts' so it didn't actually do anything for them. You not think that might not happen with teenages today, almost like the glorified ASBO?

Come on Tids, you've got children, would you like the thought of a childcare worker such as myself slapping them when they step out of line? I've only slapped my own child on a handful of occasions, normally for things that have put himself in immense danger!

The problem with the older people of society today is; they walk around with the ol' claim that 'it didn't hurt me'. Well maybe not, but it some people! Society changes, we have to move with it and learn how to adapt, how to have the best approach to a situation. Matching violence with violence with younger ones isn't the way!

No I agree, they definately wouldn't replace fully trained and motivated soldiers. They aren't completely useless though... I believe the term is 'cannon fodder'.


And yes, it should make them think twice about their future actions.

May aswel be killing enemy soldiers than domestic citizens.

You could say that domestic citizens are the enemy nowadays.

Yes you could, if you had about 8 neurons in your brain.

Edited at 08:39 Fri 14/03/08 (GMT)

Never did us? Or do you speak for everyone? Discipline can be taught in many ways, through violence is not the way though.


No i dont speak for us all i was refering to MY schooling experience and i never felt it was violence, and refering to 'the older generation' as if they was in the wrong?? there will always be differences of opinion especially as the younger generation seem to think they can 'get away with it' because its gone to an american nanny state where kids can prosecute teachers and parents for using discipline, i personally have not smacked my daughter, only, like yourself you did with yours, because she was in danger.
If however my daughter grows up to be a bully and i, will support the fact a teachers actions of reasonable coperal punishment like there used to be in schools.
But it wont return, but that doesnt mean i think it should return, i think hanging shouild return, it will never happen, same as National service

Edited at 09:35 Fri 14/03/08 (GMT)

If however my daughter grows up to be a bully

but i will do my very best to make sure she is brought up correctly and not to be a bully

I guess you didn't see the reference I was making you need more than 8 neurons in your brain to do so.

Edited at 16:38 Fri 14/03/08 (GMT)

Aren't they just! These little anti-war people that walk around get on my nerves. My little brother is one of them too! The shame of it......! My other brother is actually in Afghanistan at this very moment fighting for people's civil liberties, and to think there's people over in this country, where everyone has an opinion, trying to say they shouldn't be there.

Anyhow, if anyone ever watched bad lads army they'd know about the success of teaching young men to work in teams, to care for one another! Very simple really.........

Exactly send all these murderers and serial killers to Iraq then there using there skills to help the country.

They do it in Israel, and look at whats going on there now!

more fighting, more blood, more killed and more pressure on the governments....and I would have to be called up

Are you a naughty boy?

Thats the middle east for you, its all about religion, the main causes of war and conflict in that region

The current army's bad enough for beating up and shooting innocent people. Imagine a bunch of immature chavs taking their place. I wouldn't want the country I live in to be represented by the scum who inhabit it.

Thats my view on sending 'bad lads' to Iraq and similar places anyways.

As for national service, I'd like to see it returned. (I know this contradicts what I said above slightly). Personaly I'd love the challenge of it but for others it could help them get their lives on track, perhaps encourage some who may not have considered it to join the army and would also give those 'hooded youths' something to do

I don't think we should liken the whole of the army to a few minor morons whom have taken advantage of the positions they've been given.

The British Army is one of the most professional, and does it's job well! A few incidents that were highly publicised in the comics shouldn't be given much notice. Nice to see the media finally reporting on soldiers as heros; as appose to villans, which is the light they were portrayed in while everyone jumped on the 'Get out of Iraq' bandwagon!

National Service can work, for those who need it. My younger brothers don't need it as they're not wasters. The drunks down the local shops though......

You made a good point, Squeezy, about morons being let into the Army. However, basic training will sort out the "real men" as appose to the idiots being let straight in!