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Deleted User
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15:13 Tue 10 Oct 06 (BST)  [Link]  
Probably been brought up before but i feel the need to ask.
Why are so many people getting byes in the first round of the tournie.
Can this not be sorted?
spinner
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15:17 Tue 10 Oct 06 (BST)  [Link]  
Its to even out the remaining rounds dude..

it has to work down to 2, for example 32 - 16 - 8 - 4 - 2

So obviously if only 20 people enter, you need 12 byes to even up the next round...
tricky_boi
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17:43 Tue 10 Oct 06 (BST)  [Link]  
Yes, thats true what spinner has said once again.
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18:10 Tue 10 Oct 06 (BST)  [Link]  
wups
**packs school bag.
Deleted User
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18:11 Tue 10 Oct 06 (BST)  [Link]  
lol quite right,

If there are 2 dq's in a round (in one game) then you can expect more byes in the next round

I think
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09:14 Wed 11 Oct 06 (BST)  [Link]  
Dear oh dear spinner, you would need 4 byes.

Thought i'd point out a rare spinner mistake guys!
spinner
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09:43 Wed 11 Oct 06 (BST)  [Link]  
Well spotted Mcq!

pool_life
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09:45 Wed 11 Oct 06 (BST)  [Link]  
I think Spinner is actually right there mr_mcquiston.

If you had 4 byes like you mention (from 20) it would leave 16 players (or 8 matches) of which 8 players would go through to the next round. Add the 8 to the 4 byes you mention and it makes 12 players for the next round...then 6...then 3!

Spinners 12 byes would leave 4 games, of which 4 players would go through. Add the 4 to the 12 byes and we're on the right track with 16 players…8 players…4 players…final!

Does that make sense?

Edited at 14:47 Wed 11/10/06 (BST)
Deleted User
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09:48 Wed 11 Oct 06 (BST)  [Link]  
NO, your all really strange with to much time!!!!
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spinner
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09:51 Wed 11 Oct 06 (BST)  [Link]  
shhhh pool_life - dont ruin his moment of glory...



... i was waiting to do that! LOL!

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09:54 Wed 11 Oct 06 (BST)  [Link]  
Ok pool_life, you totally lost me there.

Think bout it. 4-20=16. 16 then 8, 4, 2.

Sounds more simple to me
pool_life
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10:09 Wed 11 Oct 06 (BST)  [Link]  
'4-20=16. 16 then 8, 4, 2'

16 then 8? At which point do the 4 byes you mention come back into the tournament?
stevo15
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10:23 Wed 11 Oct 06 (BST)  [Link]  
pool_life makes sense =O

with 20 players - 4 byes leave 16 players to play, of which 8 go through to the next round after the matches.....this makes 12 in the next round (4 byes and 8 winners)....to even it out you would then need 4 byes again to put 4 through, and leave 8 matches of which 4 go through to make 8 in next round and then it is sorted, whereas 12 byes makes the round after have 16 players straightaway, making your suggestion of 4 byes a worse route and therefore essentially flawed

EDIT : Spinners 12 byes lets 12 through and leaves 4 matches ( 8 players) of which 4 go through and the next round therefore has 16, i basically repeated pool life but hey

Edited at 15:26 Wed 11/10/06 (BST)
Deleted User
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10:33 Wed 11 Oct 06 (BST)  [Link]  
I hate to admit it, but spinner is right
pool_life
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10:39 Wed 11 Oct 06 (BST)  [Link]  
Correct!

To put the 4 byes back in a later round would mean 2 rounds of 8 players back to back as you could only put them in when 4 players go through.

Your way would do this:

4 players waiting to play after a bye.
16 play the first round and leave 8 players.
8 play the second round and leave 4 players.

You could put them back in here, but then we have the back to back rounds of 8 players i mentioned. The whole point is to even as soon as possible, and each round must be minus the amount of players from the previous round.
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13:29 Wed 11 Oct 06 (BST)  [Link]  
Yea spot on matey, more games for us all isn't it?
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