Players call a meeting and persuade the manager to change formations, and then play cluelessly.

Sven may have gone, but he has taught McClaren well.

By the way, that as Macedonia. Just so you know....

Ere we go, we ent won so lets get the daggers out!

No wait lets lynch mclaren!! No lets sack him, or we could just say ah well and get on with it!

No don't lynch him - that's too quick.

I take your point 1_eye, but my comments really stem from the constant disappointments the England team have provided since 1998 (the last time I reckon we looked good).

I felt that the current bunch of primadonnas (or near spelling) were a waste of time under Sven, and hoped they'd show a bit more passion and commitment under a new manager. I don't expect them to be brilliant - far from it - but I'd like to see them play like they mean it.

Im not hugely well read on the subject. But since when has McLaren been a great manager, worthy of being responsible for one of the top teams? Was there noone else? Did the FA provide reasons for their appointment?

I get your point martin and totally agree. Sorry i was drunk! I wish there was more passion, i go as far to say bring becks back, cause for all his faults he plays with both passion and pride, even if those around him don't!!! He'd be a fantastic sub!

WELL DONE MACEDONIA

don't put mclaren down after one game! still haven't lost or conceded a goal under the mclaren rein!

they are playin for their country where is the pride and passion that should bring!!

Parker will show passion tomorrow i promise

Bring back Kevin Phillips