By the way guys do you still want me to do my auto tables etc in excel? In FCL i just have Golden Cue to finish but will take a few days at least then i have to copy and edit for SL and FBL.

I'll still do it if needed but with the sites potential closure, i do the tables for long term use but 1-2 seasons doesn't seem like long term to me so its a lot of work for a few months.

Up to you guys, i'll still continue with it in my own time even if its discontinued. I'll also help out of needed but still not really motivated to update results but will if needed.

How long do i have?

I can help if needed too. If this is gonna be one of the last seasons I don't want it to get ruined over something as trivial as inputting a bit of data on an excel sheet lol.

At no point did I suggest loaning players. Just captains and vices. Why? Because we have to believe that these players are fair and just. It is a way in this possible last season to increase the teams and gives a previous captain a team to manage. Negativity and plain stupidity from the same people does not make it a "ridiculous idea " I believe they see it as such because it's something to moan about.

As for conflict. When it gets to the final stages and someone sees a conflict of interest the captain or vice gets subbed our. For me when the balls are set up I just play. I don't really think about the team I just want to beat the player in front of me regardless. This team would not be expecting to win anything.

As for playing for DFE dgen. You play play for dfe. That's it. Period. However over the course of the fixture you also play 1 or 2 games for the new clan.

It really is not rocket science. It's no big deal. It's certainly not something that effects anyone at all in any way. It just gives us 6 clans. That's it. What's the problem? There is none.

As for the admin side. You have used that position as a hammer to try and persuade people your way or point of view is the correct one. I firmly hope that you have decided not to do it and that this is the last we hear about it. You go on and on about how you want what's best for the site and help people out with connection issues ect and then blatantly block or attempt to screw up everything else that goes on. I don't get it.

You want a discussion and a point of view but will neither listen or attempt to help in a positive way unless it helps you and your "superb team".Negativity is rife on here at the moment and you are not helping at all. I think it's time for you to leave the discussions to people who want a positive result.

Thats fine then, i'm down for the idea. Only harm i see is your own teammates questioning your ability in the loaned match.

You would never play against your own team mates at any time. And any crunch match would be looked at and you would be omitted if there was a fear of conflict.

I'm not sure why or if there was any need to get personal, if an online game challenges your inner emotions then wow, more fool you.

As for my involvement with the Admin, it's my choice - after the amount of crap I've been subjected too (granted i bring some upon myself) dedicating my own time for people who show me complete disrespect isn't either appealing or interesting.

I will keep my sole focus on my team and yeah it is superb...because they show me respect and I reciprocate it. IF I received similar from those who are nothing but people who only give a real damn about their own notoriety and love the sound of their own voice then we could possibly get along.

Shame really!

Also respect is a two way street, we all need to show more respect to each other...myself included.

If i was to play for another clan, I would play to my best, I dont throw games.

I would, however, flat out refuse to play against my own clan.

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On another note, what are peoples responses to the idea of a killer league?

I luv it. I think its great. When will it start and whats it about

think 99% is for a Killer League at the moment

A Killer League is a very good idea and could be a huge benefit to the site it however, doesn't need to be incorporated within clans and should generate it's own identity.

Good Luck with it klien.

separate league, if we have a killer league then can scrap the cup

i'd 100% prefer a clan killer league to the FBL to be honest

Clan killer league. Only way it would be successful. Looking forward to it!

me too

Me too

Like the FBL too mind so would like my cake and eat it please

I think a clan killer league is a great idea, too.

Well that's only because you have enough problems getting your best players on for singular games let alone group events on a regular basis. We're talking positive for the 'league' here not what's best for you.

And I'm glad you will have nothing to do with the league next season, it made me very uncomfortable after witnessing how manipulative you are willing to go during normal sets, nevermind when you actually have some inside say.

And if you don't wanna be a part of any newly formed clan that's up to you, your vc Ryan has already said he'd like to be a part of it, because he's actually a good person. You might be able to beat me, but at least I'd play anyone and not cry like a baby and blame none existent technical issues for the outcome.

So I hope a killer clan league does go ahead, and any new clan for cap'ns and vices has my full support and dgens.