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_knightmare_
_knightmare_
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15:55 Wed 11 Nov 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
I'm not disputing it just my own preference would be one or two sides, 3 doesn't even cross my mind.

FPDs have done well one team at the top, two holding up the table it doesn't take a genius to see which side was focused more upon. Shame another side from FPDs didn't finished little higher too Imo. Uprising give them credit managed to get all three qualified. If we had three and finished 5/6/7th then I'd still be pleased. Still one qualifying would have been what the team deserved IMO.

Edited at 14:01 Wed 11/11/15 (GMT)
derik_dalton
derik_dalton
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15:56 Wed 11 Nov 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
FPD managed 3 sides with ease and we don't have the most active players.. Uprising too. So 3 sides can easily be done.


Yep fpd and ups both had three sides,and both made the cut, sounds like good captaincy to me
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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16:01 Wed 11 Nov 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
FPD managed 3 sides with ease and we don't have the most active players.. Uprising too. So 3 sides can easily be done.


Not with us or Revolutions, we struggled quite a bit, if you go below 12 players your screwed. We had to endure 10 or 11 players most of the season.

Two teams just about manageable for us but i would have preferred one team too, Four play but at same time you can spread games out more.

With FBL and FCL some was complaining that they had to play 10+ matches by the deadline, need to think of bigger picture
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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16:05 Wed 11 Nov 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
FPDs have done well one team at the top, two holding up the table it doesn't take a genius to see which side was focused more upon. Shame another side from FPDs didn't finished little higher too Imo.


Sounds like sour grapes to me a bit, You have your full team to choose from and if you want miss_harriet, legend_pot, _fresh_ and joeyy in one team then you could and more times than not qualify with one team. By splitting them up you lower that chance a bit but team has more balance.

With us i randomed the list and tried to stick to it but with players leaving it became harder
_knightmare_
_knightmare_
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16:23 Wed 11 Nov 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
Not sour grapes at all we finished 5th and 6th I'd take that any time over 2nd, and two bottom last. Yeah I tried to get both sides to win equal amount of matches it worked but I do agree had we stuck or kept the same 4/5 together throughout we would have qualified.

Then I get accused I'm obsessed with winning pahahahahaha obviously I'm not.
erigert
erigert
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16:27 Wed 11 Nov 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
im obsessed with winning.....

the 5th place
derik_dalton
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16:31 Wed 11 Nov 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
Not sour grapes at all we finished 5th and 6th I'd take that any time over 2nd, and two bottom last. Yeah I tried to get both sides to win equal amount of matches it worked but I do agree had we stuck or kept the same 4/5 together throughout we would have qualified.

Then I get accused I'm obsessed with winning pahahahahaha obviously I'm not.



Who's handing chomp bars out?
faust
faust
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16:36 Wed 11 Nov 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
My proposal isn't to try and force anyone into entering more teams. If you're desperate to win and want to concentrate all your best players in one team that's fine with me. If you're unambitious and don't think you have enough regular players, then entering the minimum is a good idea. All that has nothing to do with my idea though.

My proposal is designed for no other reason than to get more players playing in the clan leagues. There are free agents I wouldn't usually recruit, but would give a chance if they had a dispensation to play in the SL. I would either sign players that have never played clan before, or I would sign ex players that are unattached. If 3 or 4 teams did that, that could be 8 new players coming into the leagues. That should offset any current decline we have.
scottyjr
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17:29 Wed 11 Nov 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
Not sour grapes at all we finished 5th and 6th I'd take that any time over 2nd, and two bottom last. Yeah I tried to get both sides to win equal amount of matches it worked but I do agree had we stuck or kept the same 4/5 together throughout we would have qualified.

Then I get accused I'm obsessed with winning pahahahahaha obviously I'm not.


You would prefer to finish 5th and 6th instead of 2nd......

WOW
_knightmare_
_knightmare_
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17:35 Wed 11 Nov 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
Next season i'll try your approach and focus on 1 side if we're allowed

I don't mean that nastily btw it's just fact from an outsiders perspective.

Edited at 15:39 Wed 11/11/15 (GMT)
erigert
erigert
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17:37 Wed 11 Nov 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
Not sour grapes at all we finished 5th and 6th I'd take that any time over 2nd, and two bottom last. Yeah I tried to get both sides to win equal amount of matches it worked but I do agree had we stuck or kept the same 4/5 together throughout we would have qualified.

Then I get accused I'm obsessed with winning pahahahahaha obviously I'm not.


You would prefer to finish 5th and 6th instead of 2nd......

WOW

When u dont finish 2nd then finishing 5th becomes better
_knightmare_
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17:44 Wed 11 Nov 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
I don't think you fully understand my point: The league is a TEAM event, is it not? I managed to complete the season with 5th and 6th which isn't brilliant as obviously Uprising obliterated that with 1st/3rd and 4th.

FPD finished 2nd (Well Done) and unfortunately Bottom and 2nd Bottom - All i said was it would have been nice to seen another FPD side finish a little higher up to improve the teams collective final placings.

Jeez I'm not saying 5th and 6th is better than 2nd - I'm not stupid of course it isn't.
derik_dalton
derik_dalton
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17:54 Wed 11 Nov 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
I don't think you fully understand my point: The league is a TEAM event, is it not? I managed to complete the season with 5th and 6th which isn't brilliant as obviously Uprising obliterated that with 1st/3rd and 4th.

FPD finished 2nd (Well Done) and unfortunately Bottom and 2nd Bottom - All i said was it would have been nice to seen another FPD side finish a little higher up to improve the teams collective final placings.

Jeez I'm not saying 5th and 6th is better than 2nd - I'm not stupid of course it isn't.


There's a slightly more simple way of looking at it, there teams that finished at the bottom are ikn exact same situation as your teams.
Where as there other team are through
the__priest
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18:30 Wed 11 Nov 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
very well done to both Sarah and Keith
great job this season


applause to you both.
faust
faust
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18:51 Wed 11 Nov 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
Next season i'll try your approach and focus on 1 side if we're allowed

I don't mean that nastily btw it's just fact from an outsiders perspective.

Edited at 15:39 Wed 11/11/15 (GMT)


Wow! So next season you'll pick legend_pot and _fresh_ in the same side, every fixture? Like you pretty much did this season?? lol

Stop perpetuating the myth that you split your talent equally. There's only you swallowing it!
zantetsukenz
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19:02 Wed 11 Nov 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
Not sour grapes at all we finished 5th and 6th I'd take that any time over 2nd, and two bottom last. Yeah I tried to get both sides to win equal amount of matches it worked but I do agree had we stuck or kept the same 4/5 together throughout we would have qualified.

Then I get accused I'm obsessed with winning pahahahahaha obviously I'm not.

You're sides were even in the first set, in the second set your A side was much stronger and in the third they look stronger too. By my quick counting you had 10 players play in your A team (and 12 in your B team, so a little less elitist) to FPD's 6, which proportionally isn't that much greater taking into account they had an extra team to supply so I think you're a little harsh when some of your B team players didn't get a singe game for the A team (you for example played 8 matches for the B team without a single A team match).

So yeah, you have a greater depth of your team. But putting all your strongest players in one team wouldn't mean you would've qualified at all. You would be saying you are more worthy than the side who beat you 18-9 and 19-9 (6W-1D-1L). You didn't qualify because you failed to beat any of the top 4, putting your strongest side wouldn't guarantee that you would be able to win a head-to-head as you know from other matches this season. If you'd lost matches against lower table opposition then you could have an argument but it was head to head that cost you.
zantetsukenz
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19:21 Wed 11 Nov 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
If there was 6 or 8 teams qualifying then I don't think you would have tried to pick anything apart, suggesting cheating and saying they are guilty I your eyes until they prove themselves innocent isn't an admirable response to missing out because you weren't quite good enough. Nor is bringing it up repeatedly.

Maybe more teams qualifying would be good, could even do a knockout involving every side with league position deciding seeds and/or which level a team enters but that might make the competition too long. I always like the idea of divisions to give lower teams a good competition and more at stake for their results but that might be another hard one to implement (and the site has moved away from divisions).

I like the SL most because it rewards attacking play and is an unpredictable entity which can be unforgiving for a top player off form. Everyone is a threat to them. It seems to be like a league that's got the full and innovative ideas so I would like it to keep that.
hippesville
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22:54 Wed 11 Nov 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
With most sides putting 2+ teams in surely there could be 2 leagues, having the top teams meeting in a knockout situation.
Would be less games too.

If either league, or division, had 2 teams from the same Clan then they could play each other in the first fixture to avoid any controversy, if that's possible, at the end.
_knightmare_
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23:09 Wed 11 Nov 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
Good idea, that would ensure all teams only enter two sides each and bring back some balance.
klien
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23:11 Wed 11 Nov 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
With most sides putting 2+ teams in surely there could be 2 leagues, having the top teams meeting in a knockout situation.
Would be less games too.

If either league, or division, had 2 teams from the same Clan then they could play each other in the first fixture to avoid any controversy, if that's possible, at the end.


But how would you split the leagues fairly... Its hardly fair if you have 3 uprising teams in the same league but FPD have one team in that league and two in the other. So in response we just switch our "A" and "B" team into the league where we are most likely to go through.

^^ Thats just an example.
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