As Andy has been on since the 10 day deadline and not requested to be removed then Sub not done as other than deadline passed, you can't Sub until one of the above methods has been done unless its 'Fixture Overtime'

You can Swap two fixtures however if it gets a game done.

And swaps can be rejected right?
Well any such swap will be as me and redhand have been in contact and have arranged to play.

it's not a swap, it's a sub so auto rejected due to the rules. they can reject swaps but why would they as just hinders a game from being played then mind games start from clans and then swaps are reversed for no reason.

until the player is removed then no clan can sub

Cheers for that James, appreciate the clarification.

So just like how Ash swapped buckjam and rehand .. Team J jacko could swap dv8 if they chose? Just want to make sure degeneratio for future reference with team C .. Ty james

Yes that's right, long as both players remain in the fixture but should only be used to get games done or timezones etc.

The problem with the above was Craig removed a player (redhand) but redhand wasn't in another match in the same fixture.

Hopefully people understand that in the past Subs were made and then reversed for pure mind games or to benefit the score so wasn't for the benefit of games being completed

Examples:
dgen vs jack
now
bucky vs jack

* This is not allowed as it's a Sub and dgen lost a match as was removed from the fixture

dgen vs jack
kris vs richie
now
dgen vs richie
kris vs jack

* This is allowed as it's a Swap and all players remained in the fixture

Yes that's right, long as both players remain in the fixture but should only be used to get games done or timezones etc.


Then why was the original swap made shouldn't it have remained _knightmare_ vs buckjam. That was most certainly a tactical swap that backfired. Like lets say we swap rich and erigert since erigert would love to play _knightmare_ we can do that?

A Special exception of a Sub can be made if they Sub out a player with 10 games and switches with the 8 games player to make them 9 games each.

It did seem part tactical but Bucky accepted it so reason for the Swap was irrelevant, Bucky had every right to refuse if he didn't like it.

Getting games done or Timezones would be only reason i would Swap but it's just a guideline and if teams accept the Swap then in a sense they agree to it.

But yes technically you could do that but if Ash reversed then would have to leave it at that.

SWAP

was

beetlejuice vs fastboysam and blackcabman7 vs miss_harriet

now

beetlejuice vs miss_harriet and blackcabman7 vs fastboysam

reason - fastboysam only plays early and I can rarely make his times.

you____lost vs letsgochamp is now you____lost vs knightmare

letsgochamp vs ferretlady

i never see letsgochamp on and i always see knightmare on swap made

In my messages with letsgochamp he is a night player and i am early day player like knightmare

Edited at 17:12 Sun 12/03/17 (GMT)

Swap Rejected - No plausible reason for the swap: just because you see one of us a little more than the other. (Reason used on our thread)

I have never played a match during the day & have no intentions to, so before assuming you know my times and activity, ask first.

No swap necessary.

Ash will never play you when ferretlady is available. He is jumping at any chance to play a waiting list player.

in your eyes maybe but this is from your player
letsgochamp letsgochamp
Hi mate I'm normally on on weekends (afternoons and nights) but if this isn't convenient for you then I will make arrangements for some evening on a week day. I see you on a fair bit so sure I'll catch you.
Sent 11 days ago

As Swap was done and canceled, i have to leave fixtures as it is.

why dont you say what it really is knightmare is a crybaby he lies constantly and is scared to play anyone that can hold a match so when this game goes to default which it will we get 15-0 right

a) i'm not getting involved
b) it depends on effort (activity may play a "small" part between the two players)

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When is good to complete this
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Hi mate I'm normally on on weekends (afternoons and nights) but if this isn't convenient for you then I will make arrangements for some evening on a week day. I see you on a fair bit so sure I'll catch you.
Sent 11 days ago
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I am usually on mornings to mid afternoon ill check on at night like i am now just to see if i can catch you cheers
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last message from him was 11 days ago so we are good

ferretlady subbed out _gerardddd_ subbed in

was ferretlady vs knightmare now knightmare vs gerardddd
gerardddd had less games this evens it out

Team L vs M
you___lost vs triple_b
_gerardddd_ vs miss_harriet

is now

you___lost vs miss_harriet
_gerardddd_ vs triple_b

reason for the swap is im a evening player and you____lost is a day time player