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faust
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16:59 Tue 9 Sep 14 (BST)  [Link]  
nowhere does that say its pirates ONLY times .. they are clearly his best times but not his only times ... im sure had you messaged pirate yourself you would of got more times .. stu was only saying some times he knew 100% pirate was on but nowhere does it say only times he can be on.


When you consider king8ball1 didn't give us ANY times he could play, I think giving 3 nights in a row Jack COULD play to be more than helpful!!!
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17:03 Tue 9 Sep 14 (BST)  [Link]  
An observation...

...many of you have posted recently (and also over a very long period of time in some cases) that anybody should play anybody in clan games. It doesn't matter who plays who as long as a game gets played and that everybody in a clan should be trusted to play on behalf of a clan.

Now a game has been played there are complaints about 'picking opponents' or 'match fixing'?? To me that is double standards and is clearly more about who was involved rather than what was involved!!

For me, it does matter to some clans more than others who plays in their games. A clan with fewer good players will clearly want their best players to play rather than have them avoided during a fixture and replaced at the last minute almost forcibly sometimes purely in order to just avoid a default. If we ignore that aspect then we might as well end clan competition now because protecting that right is the only way that some clans can even hope to be able to compete on a level playing field with the best.

I would love to see swaps and subs done away with. They are the cause of just about every single clan based argument. It would then fall to captains to make sure they selected only active players for each period and it would be down to each and every player to work with their direct opponent to arrange the game as there would be no other option. Sacrifices would probably be needed from both players in some cases to get a game played but it would improve the overall integrity of clan competition ten fold.

I know this certainly would not be popular with those clans with a dozen or more good players as it would not be of any benefit to them at all so therefore probably wont happen. But it should in the interests of a better and more competitive clan world.
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17:04 Tue 9 Sep 14 (BST)  [Link]  
nowhere does that say its pirates ONLY times .. they are clearly his best times but not his only times ... im sure had you messaged pirate yourself you would of got more times .. stu was only saying some times he knew 100% pirate was on but nowhere does it say only times he can be on.


When you consider king8ball1 didn't give us ANY times he could play, I think giving 3 nights in a row Jack COULD play to be more than helpful!!!


as is aid i have tried to not argue with ash recently but this has really shone some true colours through .... Its a joke how the fbl now depends on wether you can absolutely hammer pro's (because of the current result against unbeatables for us) all because of a botched fixture.
faust
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17:08 Tue 9 Sep 14 (BST)  [Link]  
I agree in most parts of your post chris, but it only works if both sides enter it just trying to get games played. If one side has an agenda to avoid playing the other teams best players, it's far too easy to be manipulated.

For example, scooby v king8ball1 was the original FBL fixture, scooby logged in and king wanted to play him, but Ash wouldn't allow it. When you're up against that, how on Earth could we stick to the "anyone can play" mantra?

I like the idea you have proposed, but what if a daytime player got a nightime player? Would you just declare that game null and void?
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17:11 Tue 9 Sep 14 (BST)  [Link]  
I like the idea you have proposed, but what if a daytime player got a nightime player? Would you just declare that game null and void?


They either work together to compromise. I am sure a lot of us would be amazed at how many games could be played under those conditions , or alternatively swaps (only swaps) could be agreed between the respective clans and the League subject to facts being presented on each individual case/instance.
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17:11 Tue 9 Sep 14 (BST)  [Link]  
I don't normally get involved with these arguments but I will make one point which has annoyed me the most;

Last time we played Phoenix I played a match against dv8 at what was an incredibly inconvenient time of Saturday afternoon. I already had my fixture arranged with an old friend and was looking forward to playing it but went out of my way to come online to try and play him so that the fixture could get played, made the swap and played it.

I don't mind doing that kind of thing and don't usually think to mention it but do expect the same sort of courtesy back.

Admittedly my time on here is limited recently so I may have gotten the wrong end of the stick but why is it that the majority of the time Phoenix give very limited leeway to their opponents?
faust
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17:13 Tue 9 Sep 14 (BST)  [Link]  
I like the idea you have proposed, but what if a daytime player got a nightime player? Would you just declare that game null and void?


They either work together to compromise. I am sure a lot of us would be amazed at how many games could be played under those conditions , or alternatively swaps (only swaps) could be agreed between the respective clans and the League subject to facts being presented on each individual case/instance.


I kind of like the idea. Although to be fair, I've only encountered one single captain that tries to manipulate the current system to his teams advantage, so should we let them spoil it for every other team?
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17:14 Tue 9 Sep 14 (BST)  [Link]  
There is nothing wrong with the current system bar a select few who seem to negate the unwritten code of cconduct that exists.

Maybe the solution would be to make this code of conduct for clansman formal
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17:15 Tue 9 Sep 14 (BST)  [Link]  
You've been manipulating the leagues for Seasons faust so don't go accusing me of something you've done yourself. Now the boots on the other foot (in your head) you don't like it and are having a hizzy fit.

'People who live in glass houses, springs to mind!'

Forcing players to play - dv8 were online (we utilized our player), your eligible player were online (I asked him to sub in, frames took a bit longer than initially expected, sorry erigert), we got a fantastic but fair draw. king8ball1 vs pirate_steve would have been a great match and shame it didn't happen but we acted to get a match played by it's deadline day. I cannot guarantee our original player will be online by then so instead of 'shooting ourselves in the foot, with a player who doesn't play straight pool' I subbed in one which did,

So get over your sour grapes and you wouldn't be whining or crying if you'd won.

(nothing further to say on this matter)
faust
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17:18 Tue 9 Sep 14 (BST)  [Link]  
You've been manipulating the leagues for Seasons faust so don't go accusing me of something you've done yourself. Now the boots on the other foot (in your head) you don't like it and are having a hizzy fit.

'People who live in glass houses, springs to mind!'

Forcing players to play - dv8 were online (we utilized our player), your eligible player were online (I asked him to sub in, frames took a bit longer than initially expected, sorry erigert), we got a fantastic but fair draw. king8ball1 vs pirate_steve would have been a great match and shame it didn't happen but we acted to get a match played by it's deadline day. I cannot guarantee our original player will be online by then so instead of 'shooting ourselves in the foot, with a player who doesn't play straight pool' I subbed in one which did,

So get over your sour grapes and you wouldn't be whining or crying if you'd won.

(nothing further to say on this matter)


Actually, ask my rivals (mattywellie, huts24, turtle1560, punkpoet etc...) if I they have ever had an issue with me regarding this! You'll see my record is clean!

Now ask all the other captains if they can say the same about you! We've lost to better and worse teams than Phoenix, and I never whinge about a loss thankyou very much. Even when we win, I DO have a moan when the system has been blatantly manipulated, and it's ALWAYS you that does it.

Edited at 14:23 Tue 09/09/14 (BST)
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17:22 Tue 9 Sep 14 (BST)  [Link]  
There is nothing wrong with the current system bar a select few who seem to negate the unwritten code of cconduct that exists.

Maybe the solution would be to make this code of conduct for clansman formal


Always open to ideas but they need to be fair (to all clans) and watertight otherwise there would be no point.
faust
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17:26 Tue 9 Sep 14 (BST)  [Link]  
There is nothing wrong with the current system bar a select few who seem to negate the unwritten code of cconduct that exists.

Maybe the solution would be to make this code of conduct for clansman formal


Always open to ideas but they need to be fair (to all clans) and watertight otherwise there would be no point.


Could you take this to FCL discussion or somewhere chris, and leave our thread for bickering please??
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17:27 Tue 9 Sep 14 (BST)  [Link]  
Sorry - didnt mean to spoil the fun!!
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17:28 Tue 9 Sep 14 (BST)  [Link]  
There is nothing wrong with the current system bar a select few who seem to negate the unwritten code of cconduct that exists.

Maybe the solution would be to make this code of conduct for clansman formal


Always open to ideas but they need to be fair (to all clans) and watertight otherwise there would be no point.


Could you take this to FCL discussion or somewhere chris, and leave our thread for bickering please??


LMFAO
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17:28 Tue 9 Sep 14 (BST)  [Link]  
The Players Championship - Round 3

Games can be found here...

http://funkypoolclanleagues.weebly.com/round-3.html

Deadline for these games is Midnight UK 21/9/14.
faust
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17:34 Tue 9 Sep 14 (BST)  [Link]  
The Players Championship - Round 3

zantetsukenz vs dvz
erigert vs thegame26
psych_pro vs faust
turtle1560 vs clifton188
kaperisk vs ritcho
mattywellie vs sharky89
pirate_steve vs greyhound

Deadline for these games is Midnight UK 21/9/14

Please note.....
Anyone updating this, make sure not to tag mattywellie. mattywellie gets very uptight about being tagged, and we don't want to upset our old mate mattywellie!! Thankyou!

Edited at 14:58 Tue 09/09/14 (BST)
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17:44 Tue 9 Sep 14 (BST)  [Link]  
The Players Championship - Round 3

zantetsukenz vs dvz
erigert vs thegame26
psych_pro vs faust
turtle1560 vs clifton188
kaperisk vs ritcho
mattywellie vs sharky89
pirate_steve vs greyhound

Deadline for these games is Midnight UK 21/9/14

Please note.....
Anyone updating this, make sure not to tag mattywellie. mattywellie gets very uptight about being tagged, and we don't want to upset our old mate mattywellie!! Thankyou!

Edited at 14:42 Tue 09/09/14 (BST)


faust stop tagging me, im a captain faust and i know when i have got games to play faust, is there any way that i can pick and choose my opponent in this players championship faust ??
faust
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17:48 Tue 9 Sep 14 (BST)  [Link]  
The Players Championship - Round 3

zantetsukenz vs dvz
erigert vs thegame26
psych_pro vs faust
turtle1560 vs clifton188
kaperisk vs ritcho
mattywellie vs sharky89
pirate_steve vs greyhound

Deadline for these games is Midnight UK 21/9/14

Please note.....
Anyone updating this, make sure not to tag mattywellie. mattywellie gets very uptight about being tagged, and we don't want to upset our old mate mattywellie!! Thankyou!

Edited at 14:42 Tue 09/09/14 (BST)


faust stop tagging me, im a captain faust and i know when i have got games to play faust, is there any way that i can pick and choose my opponent in this players championship faust ??


Hahaha, the email attached to this account is dead from lack of use! My proper email is attached to skunkyfool, my banned account! Not sure if I can fix that? So tag, tag, tag away! lol

And sure, just identify whoever you think is our best player, and even if they're on every single day - just avoid playing them. It's simple! Tell you what, I'll post the times sharky can play on your thread, and then you'll have a reference point of times you have to avoid!!
turtle1560
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17:49 Tue 9 Sep 14 (BST)  [Link]  
Right ye've had yer fun.. enough of the damn tagging
erigert
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17:51 Tue 9 Sep 14 (BST)  [Link]  
Well ill have mylast say on this matter.

Firstly i wasnt pressured from Ash to make the sub, even though most likely he wanted to remove one of our best players from the fixture. Im sure if i had offered the same thing to him with 99% he wouldnt agree with it.
I just thought i can get one more game played and also thought Jack had limited times this week (thing for which i was wrong and hence why i asked sorry to him). I didnt like some posts here from Stu but thats a sorted thing now, he has always beleived in me since day one when i joined this great clan and he still does (since he left me captain of Fbl) and i really do appreciate that. So these little things are not going to change the respect we have for each other but anyway i appreciate all the other messages are sent to me
What is done its history now so lets live the present and move on
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