I was in a game today. There were 4 or 5 people still in. I had one life left, and so did the player right before me. The player before me ended up snookered, pretty much nothing could be done, his game was all but over. He then stopped responding, left game, and I was left to shoot his shot. My game then ended too of course.
Not sure if he got kicked out, or left on purpose, but I wasn't the only player left in the room that had a feeling it may the latter.
Anyway, whether he left on purpose or not, this situation isn't really fair (especially considering it can be done on purpose). I've seen it happen to others before too, and it wasn't the first time it has happened to me.

But today I realized, this problem could be corrected.
Why not treat it like a foul when someone gets kicked out? Leave the next player ball-in-hand, instead of making them shoot where it lies.

Someone else in the room said, "or do a random shot", you know, like when someone runs out of time.

After thinking about it, the 2nd option may be best. Giving ball-in-hand would give away more 8balls, wouldn't be very fair to the rest in the game when that happens.

What do you think funkypoolers? Should they do a random shot when someone gets kicked out, or logs off mid-game?
or continue to have the next player shoot where they left off?

I was in this game and i agree totally with Beenjammin there is a better option as this seems to be a regular occurance.
The random idea is a very good option and as we keep hearing you want to improve this site and killer is a huge part of Funkypool with many players so must be worth considering

Ball in hand isn't an option IMO because then it's unfair on the person that's behind you. I do agree with the random shot though, this has happened a fair few times to me before as well and it's the most frustrating thing, whether you're on 3 lives or 1.

If you were in the pub playing killer and the person before you left during a game but people didn't realise until it was their shot what would happen, pretty sure you would be left to play the next shot, its unfortunate and possibly a bit unfair but no matter what the reasons are for leaving your next to play, why should it be a foul if no actual foul was committed ?

Can the 2 ball potted rule be abolished too in straight lol, ideas to pot as many as possible so kind of contradicts that when judged as a foul for more than 1 potted.

Just a thought. So many quality runs are ruined by the little bit of opportunistic bad luck which happens in this case. Usually turns the match 360 for opponent.

read thread title Ash lol killer not straight

Yeah but in my defence, it's been a KILLER request of mine for a while so seemed quite appropriate lol.

Arguably the player that played the shot has done so with the intention of 'killing' his opponents. If he can achieve more than one at once surely that's the aim of the game?

Also potentially leaving a game so that the next player in line might inherit a particularly difficult shot, thereby losing a life or being killed, could be a perfectly legitimate tactic either to make someone lose ranking points or, more likely in team Killer, for the good of their own team.

Not particularly nice or sporting maybe, but I would say perfectly valid in the same way that deliberate fouls are.

I am not sure we need to be interfering unnecessarily in these kind of situations.

yeah there's another good reason why the random shot is better

Good point with the "in the pub" comparison, though I've also seen people leave a different player in their place when they had to leave.
About there not having been a foul, there kind of has been. They didn't make their shot right? If that happened without them leaving the game they would run out of time, and there would be a foul/random shot.

I would think the player that played the shot has done so with the intention of 'killing' his opponent, not plural. Noone makes a shot expecting to take a life from the next 2 players in line. That would depend on what the next player in line does, which is out of their control.

Good point with the team killer, but as an individual in a game, it's not even a means to a victory, it's just mean, unsporting.
and I think it's a bad fit comparing this to deliberate fouls.
In terms of how unsporting it is, this is quite a few notches above.
Deliberate fouls are a tactic used to win the game, this situation in killer isn't (unless in the team killer situation, which is an extremely small portion of the killer games played).

Ash the two ball potted rule is something I would like kept in the game. Don't know about anyone else but I've done a lot of work in practicing the different ways to enter a pack when down to the last ball of a rack. As for double potting on an open table, that's stupid and if you pay attention to what you're doing it won't happen. Definitely don't want this game getting easier. Also, Straight pool is your least played game so I can't understand why you should get changes you want when you hardly ever play it. Leave it to us regulars

Been playing it recently of late and the 2 potted ball rule is a headache, fair enough I don't play it as often as others but do try.
For you to say that would be making it easier then I'm not really one to comment, you make it appear easy already lol. Mastering any game type is a challenge, so suppose keeping it in would be fine.

My thoughts on this are quite similar to a foul in straight.
After a foul I would then give the option of putting the other back in. granted in killer the other player may not have any lives, but I still think it should be an option.

If 2 Pot Rule was removed Straight would be far too easy, and a bit of a hit n hope game.

As straight is a call-shot game, potting multiple balls is rightly a foul on this game.

like in snooker right? That's a great idea for straight, i like it, but it doesn't fit the situation in killer that this thread is about.
I think you're thinking of deliberate fouls, like tapping, totally different really, there's a good chance they're still in the game, and did it for a better chance to win.
In this situation, the player that failed to take a shot has left the room, and has just been removed from the game.

Edited at 21:11 Sun 04/05/14 (BST)

Before posting an opinion, consider what ab helped me realize.
Any other time someone fails to take their shot (runs out of time), a random shot penalty is done.

Also, in every other game, when someone leaves the room, noone left in the room may suffer for it will they? They automatically win. Even in killer, it happens that way if there are only 2 players left.
Of course that's not always possible in killer, but you have to admit, this direction being taken is completely different than other games types. Even a different direction in the same game, killer, even though it's the same situation only with a different amount of players.

Edited at 23:23 Sun 04/05/14 (BST)

No idea how you got that from this lol



Time didn't run out, they left the room, its unfortunate but because they left the next player is stuck with whatever shot is on the table, people keep saying they want the rules to be close to real life, if you were in the pub would you say it was a foul or should be a random shot or even suggest ball in hand, I wouldn't.

So where are we?

3 in favor,
5 if you count fran, who was in the game, but muted, although someone (tipster I think) said they had him on the phone and he agrees, and poolbird, although she hasn't posted here, it was her idea for the random shot.

2 against,
A part of me is surprised anyone doesn't like this idea, another part of me can't help but notice these 2 almost always disagree with the ideas I post, and isn't surprised at all.