Are you for or against the ban on burkas in france?
http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/bantheburkaintheuk

I'm all for stopping terrorism or free magners, link is in Uk

Just a pity that both the above are far fetched dreams

yeah no one wants extreme muslim terroism

Damn straight

9 ball fan?

I've known of people to smuggle bombs/drugs etc in their shoes does this mean we should ban shoes as well? Banning someones item of clothing is ridiculous if you ask me it will cause more trouble trying to fight against it.

I can understand the rules in some places where you have to take your hood down/hat off/helmet off in shops etc but disagree with banning an item of clothing because people relate it to terrorism, that is just racist or anti sematic or whatever it is towards muslims and anyone who wears them.

Come on Mich, since when did people have a picture of their feet on the passport that had to be shown before boarding a plane

If someones wearing a Burka, for whatever reason... religious belief or otherwise, they could be Mr Laden or Mrs Brown under it, do you want that possibility when flying on a plane ?

I'd rather be labeled racist than be in a thousand pieces dropping over the Atlantic Ocean

I believe that they should reveal their face if asked to by authority for example police, passport control etc etc but they shouldn't ban it altogether.

it's worked in france hasn't it

But France isnt as nancy prancy as Britain is

France was never in much of a threat from terrorists though, or at least nowhere to the extent as the uk and USA were. Truth be told I hadn't heard of terrorist action in France only where the main stories have been really uk USA afghan Iraq Libya and one or two in Spain and some other middle eastern countries.

I don't think banning items of clothing will make terrorists say oh damn let's go get Belgium or something instead where we can wear them...

If I was a terrorist the banning of part of my religion and beliefs would anger me more and give me more reason to carry out an attack.

And no I am not a terrorist.

-_- they all say theyre not terrorists at 1st

In today's day and age, a picture should really not be the main way to identify someone anymore. The amount of altering that can be done there makes it silly. Also, using a picture won't allow you to identify twins- just saying lol.

Why not use fingerprints? Completely unique and nobody has to break their religious beliefs for it. The technology exists (any tourist who enters the US must give a fingerprint at the airport). No need to see someone's face.

So yeah, I'm against it, because it's a very outdated way of doing things that is offensive to many.

But the thing is... it's not a requirement to wear it, it's not against their religion to just not wear it lol

So why should they be banned from wearing it and give a good none racist, none anti sematic reason.

If you are saying terror alerts etc France hasn't been subject of a big terror problem really, so not stopping anything by doing this terrorists will attack if they really want to burkhas or not.

It is in their belief, and in many places is their law to show only their eyes (or something along them lines) and therefore it is against their beliefs. France won't achieve anything by banning it, as I said will probably anger more people by being idiotic and naive.

Just another point, surely this goes against peoples human rights does it not? Surely France in some time will probably be taken to the European court for Human Rights and will more than likely lose their battle if you ask me.

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Edited at 09:47 Tue 18/09/12 (BST)

Actually fingerprints are not unique, nor 100% infallible.
There is a 1 in 1 billion chance that someone shares the same fingerprints as yourself, meaning that there are possibly 6 people on the planet with your prints.
Iris recognition is another matter though, and is thought to be (at present) unique.

Mich - France has suffered from terrorist attacks (maybe not as recently as the UK and US, admittedly), and is still in a high state of alert for its vigipirate scheme, with armed police and soldiers making regular rounds at airports, stations and strategic points, especially in Paris.

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Yes, in some places women are treated appallingly as you mention, yet you're using this treatment as a counter argument for pro burka? The countries where this might be enforced are living in the dark ages if it's against the law for a lady to show her face, so i really can't understand why you would seemingly condone this treatment.

France plays host to these religions and if they want to set rules or guidelines they are within their rights in the same way these other countries make rules for the west where a tourist can't put on a bikini or have a drink in a bar.

Human rights work both ways, yet the only countries that seem to be pulled on the matter are those that actually treat people with dignity and respect and the 'pulling' is usually done by do gooders that turn a blind eye to the treatment of women in the first place.

If i had a child and the PE teacher wore a burka how would the child know it's the teacher in the changing room and not a man that's wondered into the school to take advantage of the law? That's just a single argument against this item of clothing, but there are many and if you are host in a country you have to respect the law, regardless of whether it's your belief or some dominating man still maintaining sexist beliefs from hundreds of years ago.

I think the claim that most crime happens with "them" is quite simply ignorant, racist and ridiculous. If you can get statistics from national offices that back up your claim in this country or anywhere else in Britain I will believe you.

Again, I agree on some points you are making but I disagree with the fact France are banning it due to terrorism, it is a minority of people who are extremists and give the rest of their people a bad name. A bit like hooligans in sport (obviously on a much much higher scale).

On the basis of this should we now then ban the wearing of tracksuits and trainers as the minority of people who decide to wear this type of clothing have ASBO's? (Not much difference just the scale of crime really)

I know what I said about ASBO's is a ridiculous claim but so is the fact banning Burkas will help fight terrorism. like I said if terrorists want to attack they will, and this will probably anger them more so.

I agree that their laws on women are very sexist but they are their beliefs and their way of life. Yeah they should bow to France's laws but France shouldn't have a such a racist (my opinion) law.