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12:59 Mon 10 Dec 12 (GMT) [Link]
by the way don't downgrade because its snooker, i thought of possible ideas how the league can improve and except for last two ideas i didn't think of snooker when posting.
13:07 Mon 10 Dec 12 (GMT) [Link]
Well i am going to get this out of the way just now to safe me time in the future.
Not long ago there was a discussion about the FBL because the runners have other things they need to do after this season has ended.
bluenose1872 - Leaving was temporary and has FCL to run and focus on. (May stay as a league advisor if asked to)
dgeneratio - Leaving as has other commitments
mattywellie - As far as anyone knows he is also leaving due to personal commitments with a new arrival soon.
Considering all these above reasons the FBL i will be handing full control of the league to pixie_dust. Jema will have this full control of the league as soon as fixture set four is over, i will be staying on as will the rest of the runners until the cup games are done with as it will be me releasing these games.
FBL has been a fun league to take part in and also run as a whole despite their being some sad moments in between. So as said above...
pixie_dust will be the head league runner of the FBL after fixture set four is complete.
Not long ago there was a discussion about the FBL because the runners have other things they need to do after this season has ended.
bluenose1872 - Leaving was temporary and has FCL to run and focus on. (May stay as a league advisor if asked to)
dgeneratio - Leaving as has other commitments
mattywellie - As far as anyone knows he is also leaving due to personal commitments with a new arrival soon.
Considering all these above reasons the FBL i will be handing full control of the league to pixie_dust. Jema will have this full control of the league as soon as fixture set four is over, i will be staying on as will the rest of the runners until the cup games are done with as it will be me releasing these games.
FBL has been a fun league to take part in and also run as a whole despite their being some sad moments in between. So as said above...
pixie_dust will be the head league runner of the FBL after fixture set four is complete.
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13:49 Mon 10 Dec 12 (GMT) [Link]
as stated before and also to Jema, I will stay on as a league runner but pretty much like jay in an advisory role as I have got limited acces to the Game server I can browse via my phone but I have no other way at the minute of getting online.
14:31 Mon 10 Dec 12 (GMT) [Link]
my suggestions are incomplete games once started if u sub a player in he can take over and start a fresh game to stop defaults in incomplete games fixtures shouldnt come out till othere fixtures have been completed should come out on deadline day unless prior engagements on deadline day
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17:53 Mon 10 Dec 12 (GMT) [Link]
I am happy for any of the current runners to stay on, I value the opinions of Jay, Matty & James.
Some things I would like to discuss for the FBL...
1) What would people like to see from Killer? Scrap it, leave it or are there any changes you'd like to see.
2) As per cke's post, I would maybe like to introduce a new rule for partially played games, thoughts? The rule will be circumstantial and strict of course.
3) Should the cup be scrapped? As 1 division kind of defeats the purpose of the cup as we all play each other anyway.
4) Is everyone happy with the FBL format i.e. frames, scoring and bonuses.
I personally do not have any clear thoughts on the above yet, I just want players input as to what kind of league they want to play in. All suggestions are welcome and all will be looked at although not all will be implemented
Some things I would like to discuss for the FBL...
1) What would people like to see from Killer? Scrap it, leave it or are there any changes you'd like to see.
2) As per cke's post, I would maybe like to introduce a new rule for partially played games, thoughts? The rule will be circumstantial and strict of course.
3) Should the cup be scrapped? As 1 division kind of defeats the purpose of the cup as we all play each other anyway.
4) Is everyone happy with the FBL format i.e. frames, scoring and bonuses.
I personally do not have any clear thoughts on the above yet, I just want players input as to what kind of league they want to play in. All suggestions are welcome and all will be looked at although not all will be implemented
17:59 Mon 10 Dec 12 (GMT) [Link]
Quickly before I go off to "work"
1) Keep it, but introduce a better default system. Almost impossible to do defaults with 6 players involved.
2) No idea. I only know what we use on snooker (check dgen's posts)
3) NO! Keep the cup! Cup is fun.
4) I'm always against win bonuses, but that's been discussed many times.
1) Keep it, but introduce a better default system. Almost impossible to do defaults with 6 players involved.
2) No idea. I only know what we use on snooker (check dgen's posts)
3) NO! Keep the cup! Cup is fun.
4) I'm always against win bonuses, but that's been discussed many times.
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18:01 Mon 10 Dec 12 (GMT) [Link]
Few from me, some of which has already been mentioned.
Don't close fixtures at exactly midnight but when you go offline that night, if its early then midnight is the deadline. I like this but I have a kid so I am in bed early most nights
If someone tries to concede frames or hands points away then give them an official warning, after that a suspension of 1 fixture set or stronger if necessary. I like this
If their is a tie breaker at end of season pick 1 player who will play a race to 3 frames (2 if Straight), could include killer to make it odd, 1 point per win for your team, 3 out of 5 points wins the league. This is interesting, I would consider this one
Team changes done after each set not during it so players taken out can still play. Might have a no transfers rule in place and maybe have a mid season window instead, hate team changes lol
Once a game is started between two players, no substitution may be made. An exception is allowed when a player is banned, removed from a clan, or leaves a clan. In this case, the game may be abandoned and restarted at 0-0 with a sub for the player in question or a player may be subbed in to finish the game with the current score. Both captains must agree. I do like the idea of a rule like this, obviously needs a tight rule
Don't close fixtures at exactly midnight but when you go offline that night, if its early then midnight is the deadline. I like this but I have a kid so I am in bed early most nights
If someone tries to concede frames or hands points away then give them an official warning, after that a suspension of 1 fixture set or stronger if necessary. I like this
If their is a tie breaker at end of season pick 1 player who will play a race to 3 frames (2 if Straight), could include killer to make it odd, 1 point per win for your team, 3 out of 5 points wins the league. This is interesting, I would consider this one
Team changes done after each set not during it so players taken out can still play. Might have a no transfers rule in place and maybe have a mid season window instead, hate team changes lol
Once a game is started between two players, no substitution may be made. An exception is allowed when a player is banned, removed from a clan, or leaves a clan. In this case, the game may be abandoned and restarted at 0-0 with a sub for the player in question or a player may be subbed in to finish the game with the current score. Both captains must agree. I do like the idea of a rule like this, obviously needs a tight rule
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18:02 Mon 10 Dec 12 (GMT) [Link]
Don't lie Seb, there is no work, you are just going onto your other account
And thank you for your suggestions
And thank you for your suggestions
18:06 Mon 10 Dec 12 (GMT) [Link]
1) keep it how it is, but have a default system which is better.
2) dont know
3) no, keep the cup!
4) Formats should be kept the same.. but iam always thinking of better ways in scoring straight pool.
Also i think the season should be longer.. each time plays each other TWICE, not ONCE. This should definately be the case if the cup goes.
2) dont know
3) no, keep the cup!
4) Formats should be kept the same.. but iam always thinking of better ways in scoring straight pool.
Also i think the season should be longer.. each time plays each other TWICE, not ONCE. This should definately be the case if the cup goes.
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18:10 Mon 10 Dec 12 (GMT) [Link]
Work? Stop lying your browsing.
Quickly before I go off to "work"
1) Keep it, but introduce a better default system. Almost impossible to do defaults with 6 players involved.
2) No idea. I only know what we use on snooker (check dgen's posts)
3) NO! Keep the cup! Cup is fun.
4) I'm always against win bonuses, but that's been discussed many times.
1) Keep it, but introduce a better default system. Almost impossible to do defaults with 6 players involved.
2) No idea. I only know what we use on snooker (check dgen's posts)
3) NO! Keep the cup! Cup is fun.
4) I'm always against win bonuses, but that's been discussed many times.
Work? Stop lying your browsing.
19:06 Mon 10 Dec 12 (GMT) [Link]
agree with seb, get rid of win bonus and maybe raise completion bonus to 7.
if people think Straight is dominating FBL then lower to 1 game not two.
keep cup but do we need something to prevent tie breakers?
p.s. about killer defaults its based on the fixture right now.
if people think Straight is dominating FBL then lower to 1 game not two.
keep cup but do we need something to prevent tie breakers?
p.s. about killer defaults its based on the fixture right now.
03:54 Tue 11 Dec 12 (GMT) [Link]
1. Personally i have mixed feelings on killer, it can be a pain to get the game done especially if a team is low on players or no time zones match up and other things. I would be in favour of scrapping it but i do like it when you actually can get a game done. The default on it has to be worked on though as it is a pain sometimes.
2. Take it or leave it, personally dont like a rule for partial games at all, you either play the 6 frames or 3 for straight or you don't.
4. Im in favour of scrapping it and keeping it as it is fun. It all depends on how many teams join and who makes it through because the schedules can be confusing.
3. More than happy with the format, straight could be one point per game though as it does have the best win/loss on points ratio. I think the completion bonus should be scrapped and the win bonus stay as you work hard to get the win as a team. Not sure on what i would class as a decent win bonus though if completion was scrapped.
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2. Take it or leave it, personally dont like a rule for partial games at all, you either play the 6 frames or 3 for straight or you don't.
4. Im in favour of scrapping it and keeping it as it is fun. It all depends on how many teams join and who makes it through because the schedules can be confusing.
3. More than happy with the format, straight could be one point per game though as it does have the best win/loss on points ratio. I think the completion bonus should be scrapped and the win bonus stay as you work hard to get the win as a team. Not sure on what i would class as a decent win bonus though if completion was scrapped.
Edited at 02:07 Tue 11/12/12 (GMT)
04:02 Tue 11 Dec 12 (GMT) [Link]
1. I like killer and i was totally against it to start with. Only thing i would change is the scoring. Should be 3 points for first, 2 points for second and 1 point for third. All it takes is good communication and there is no reason it doesn't get played.
2. Leave it as it is.
3. Happy with the format, straight reduced to one point per game as the same players win all the time in it or get rid of it altogether. I think the completion bonus should be scrapped and the win bonus should remain.
4. Keep cup as it is a bit of extra fun but maybe looking at changing the format or tweaking it a little.
2. Leave it as it is.
3. Happy with the format, straight reduced to one point per game as the same players win all the time in it or get rid of it altogether. I think the completion bonus should be scrapped and the win bonus should remain.
4. Keep cup as it is a bit of extra fun but maybe looking at changing the format or tweaking it a little.
04:08 Tue 11 Dec 12 (GMT) [Link]
Think if straight was removed totally then Killer would have to remain anyway to make up for the missing straight.
Don't see how you can tweak the cup any more than it already is to be honest.
Don't see how you can tweak the cup any more than it already is to be honest.
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12:59 Tue 11 Dec 12 (GMT) [Link]
I think maybe with Killer, I might look to take it out of the league format and maybe add a separate killer cup or something so people can pick or choose to play it, games would get released alongside the normal fixtures.
Straight I think will need to be changed as Jay said the ratio is too high, 1 point per straight frame seems fair to be honest. To make up the loss of 6 points from reduced Straight frames how about adding 1 frame to each of the other games so we have 7 frames per FBL game instead of 6?... Just a thought
If people are happy with the cup then I shall keep it in the FBL
I am in favour of scrapping the completion bonus but would see to increase the win bonus to perhaps 10 points? Thoughts?
If the league continues as 1 division then I will perhaps extend the league by having everyone play each other twice
To keep in with the FCL, the FBL will also be reducing team size to 14 players
Straight I think will need to be changed as Jay said the ratio is too high, 1 point per straight frame seems fair to be honest. To make up the loss of 6 points from reduced Straight frames how about adding 1 frame to each of the other games so we have 7 frames per FBL game instead of 6?... Just a thought
If people are happy with the cup then I shall keep it in the FBL
I am in favour of scrapping the completion bonus but would see to increase the win bonus to perhaps 10 points? Thoughts?
If the league continues as 1 division then I will perhaps extend the league by having everyone play each other twice
To keep in with the FCL, the FBL will also be reducing team size to 14 players
14:03 Tue 11 Dec 12 (GMT) [Link]
Killer is my favourite aspect of FBL, and I've never struggled to get the games played tbh.
19:40 Tue 11 Dec 12 (GMT) [Link]
nah put it to 7, we need a nice close season rather than a clan winning with a fixture to spare.
i don't like it though it means people may lose interest if they win the fixture, completion bonus gives an incentive to complete fixtures.
i don't like it though it means people may lose interest if they win the fixture, completion bonus gives an incentive to complete fixtures.
23:11 Tue 11 Dec 12 (GMT) [Link]
no need to get rid of Straight its quite competitive like Carom but not alot of people play the game.
same point system as my idea so makes no difference but it does keep it competitive
One game of Straight, 2 points per frame (1*6=6)
Two game of Straight, 1 point per frame (2*3=6)
3. Happy with the format, straight reduced to one point per game as the same players win all the time in it or get rid of it altogether.
no need to get rid of Straight its quite competitive like Carom but not alot of people play the game.
same point system as my idea so makes no difference but it does keep it competitive
One game of Straight, 2 points per frame (1*6=6)
Two game of Straight, 1 point per frame (2*3=6)
00:08 Wed 12 Dec 12 (GMT) [Link]
i like killer as its what it was meant to be a team game keep killer in u have a chat and have a laugh
03:11 Wed 12 Dec 12 (GMT) [Link]
As a result of the tie breaker in the FBL cup it has actually worked out in the leagues favour now. I have set the deadline on it for this Sunday (Same day the FCL games come out)
FCL releases the last league set and the semi final of the cup this coming weekend, as the final will be run on its own at end of season. Taking that into account i will release the semi final of the FBL cup same time as them and then the final on the same day of the FCL final.
In short the FCL and FBL will finish their total season on exactly the same day and then can be started up again roughly on the same day
FCL releases the last league set and the semi final of the cup this coming weekend, as the final will be run on its own at end of season. Taking that into account i will release the semi final of the FBL cup same time as them and then the final on the same day of the FCL final.
In short the FCL and FBL will finish their total season on exactly the same day and then can be started up again roughly on the same day
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