The cup aint based on football though haha

Personnaly i dont mind it its 5v5 or 8v8, but 12v12 may take it a little too far IMO

Yeah I could understand people wanting to keep it the same if it had been really succesful but there never appears to be any real interest in it and you're spot on the 5 a side format is why.

15 v 15 would be awesome in the final

I'll speak to James when he comes back over from the dark side as i like the idea's here for the cup, making the semi's have like more games in it or something

15 v 15 in final? Lee would be awesome but don't think that would work out haha

wouldn't say it so don't assume.

i only said it because i looked at a site put a team of 5 and team of 6 and both said 10 fixtures but teams would get BYES.

8 v 8 all the way through and 12 v 12 in the final....that's my vote
couldn't see 15 v 15 all getting played but with as many swaps and subs as you like now 12 would be easily achievable and what a way to end the season!

how about 5 v 5 but 8 v 8 in the final?

A little potted history on the Cup and why it ideally needs an odd number of matches

It used to be 6 vs 6, I think, but with an even number of matches you had an even number of points available (ie 6 x 15 = 90 pts) and you therefore used to risk ending up with drawn matches (45 - 45) hence the switch to 5 vs 5 which guaranteed that there could never be a draw if all the matches were completed.

As an additional benefit a 5-a-side match gave more clans an improved chance of winning as it didn't rely completely on any given clan's strength in depth. Cups should be about promoting underdogs, giving everyone the feeling they have a chance and producing shock results - not just about favouring the teams with the most good players - the leagues already do that.

Nothing to do with me now, but just answering someone's point earlier about how we, as league runners, came to that decision originally.

As an additional benefit a 5-a-side match gave more clans an improved chance of winning as it didn't rely completely on any given clan's strength in depth. Cups should be about promoting underdogs, giving everyone the feeling they have a chance and producing shock results - not just about favouring the teams with the most good players - the leagues already do that.

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agreed on snooker we have 1 frame on each type, different from league, cup has 5 v 5 and league 8 v 8, cup is designed for unpredictability.

That only lets 6 more players play in the cup though, I can't see that would build any more interest in it only a third of a clan getting to play in it makes it just a nothing competition in my opinion.

ill stick at 5 v 5 then

dont really want to go any higher than 8.

10 fixtures for each division so 5 fixture sets

Schedule:

(6/11/11 - 20/11/11)

Fixture Set 1 (fixtures 1+2)
Cup Round 1

(20/11/11 - 04/12/11)

Fixture Set 2 (fixtures 3+4)

(04/12/11 - 18/12/11)

Fixture Set 3 (fixtures 5)
Cup Quarter Final

(18/12/11 - 01/01/12)

Fixture Set 4 (fixture 6+7) Div 1 not Div 2 but then there is a massive 2 week gap for Div 2.

(01/01/12 - 15/01/12)

Fixture Set 5 (fixture 8)
Cup Semi Final

(15/01/12 - 05/02/12)

Fixture Set 6 (fixture 9+10)
Cup Final

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How about in the middle of the season play a Div 2 game on an alternate week to a Div 1 games, e.g 1 week break for Div 2, then play (over the 2 weeks), the next week the Div 1 game will be finish, start a new set for div 1, then the following week the Div 2 games will be done, and then a wait a week. Then conclude the games as normal for the rest of the season?

I was thinking if it could work then maybe try

5 v 5 for first few rounds
8 v 8 semi final
12 v 12 final

final means they have a few subs just incase.

5vs5 anything can happen. F.A Cup, a shock result or 2, changes the complexion of the match.

I like the 5 vs 5 I just hink season should of started sooner but I get the argument against

I haven't seen a drawn game yet in the league so the chance are really remote of getting one in the cup and if there was one it would give you a chance to have some sort of shoot out decider like a cup should be bit of excitement.

I can't see the other point to be honest the best clans have the best players and by making it 5 v 5 you're getting the best clans very best players which is even harder.

Clan sizes are bigger now and I really think the cup needs some reinvention as alan said it's not working as it is and is seen as a non event.

You could argue that 5 vs 5 would be more predictable as teams will play their 5 best players.

Wouldn't go over 8 vs 8 as i think 12 a side would make it difficult to complete

saying 5 v 5 gives the underdogs a chance isnt really true as some teams will put the 5 top players they have into the cup match. the only way it could be done as a proper cup match and have giant killings etc would be to draw the fixtures at random and have the 5 players picked at random too.

maybe change the format then? 1 frame of each type (dont like bringing arcade into FCL but for unpredictability id risk it) THEN its unpredictable.

i still think cup should be different from the league, dont forget you have FCL games to play as well as the cup, so most people may have 3 fixtures to play.

say you make the sides 8 vs 8 maybe something like captains can only choose 3 players and the rest are random and you can only use x amount of subs.