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19:21 Wed 23 Feb 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
what do you thinks of the addition of a concede game button ? so a player can concede at any time ? and maybe when the opponent presses it the other player has the choice to let him or not as he might be on a run out or 7 baller.

just a thought
dgeneratio
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19:25 Wed 23 Feb 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
power snooker has this when you are 200 behind and i don't like it personally so i will hate it if this came in.

i think its fine as it is personally otherwise you would get people conceding to annoy people.
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19:28 Wed 23 Feb 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
but if you had the option to block there concede ? then its upto both
diamond_cut
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20:22 Wed 23 Feb 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
This would get annoying in straight if a player is on a run and the opponent just concedes.
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20:31 Wed 23 Feb 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
Concede Button good idea Ross, but how about you can only concede when it is your shot or oppenant can concede when it is there shot, i think this apply's to snooker they have it on there.

I know real life snooker a player can only concede when it is there shot. Not sure about real life pool even though i play it a lot haha
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21:05 Wed 23 Feb 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
diamond_cut said:
This would get annoying in straight if a player is on a run and the opponent just concedes.


the post above yours says

seriousblack said:
but if you had the option to block there concede ? then its upto both
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21:05 Wed 23 Feb 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
If i wanted to concede the other player would have to agree. I cant see it doing any harm what so ever if its a mutual decision
joker86
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21:37 Wed 23 Feb 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
The whole point in conceding in snooker is if there is not enough points on the table to take the lead, all the reason to concede.

In pool you are always in with a chance to win as anyone can miss, therefore why would you concede?
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00:32 Thu 24 Feb 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
If you wanted to concede the game as I'm sure most have done, just leave the game room, if a player is on a run or clear up, even when the opponent has left, they can still carry on with their turn till they clear up or miss.
diamond_cut
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01:24 Thu 24 Feb 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
seriousblack said:
diamond_cut said:
This would get annoying in straight if a player is on a run and the opponent just concedes.


the post above yours says

seriousblack said:
but if you had the option to block there concede ? then its upto both


Yeah but it would still distract you from your run, little things like that put people off!
chaos_
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02:33 Thu 24 Feb 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
Would be handy for when i draw onua or ucy in the tourneys
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02:47 Thu 24 Feb 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
chaos_ said:
Would be handy for when i draw onua or ucy in the tourneys


haha yeah would be nice
rubber_duck
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13:32 Thu 24 Feb 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
What a stupid idea, this is pool not snooker!
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16:29 Thu 24 Feb 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
Personally, one believes this a very good suggestion. I have in fact discussed this idea with moderators and an assortment of users whom play on this site reguarly and irregularly. Obviously conjectures differ, however it is somewhat interesting to see the varieties of views with rationales in order to back up their opinions.

Here was what I inferred from the agreeing survey:

I can confidently say all of the users on funkypool have an elsewhere life with family, friends or even individually, whether the users play bowls with their family, watching their favourite programme individually, or even partying with friends.

I am aware I am going off on a slight tangent... however out of all the perspectives, the mode (Most common) of them all was that they agreed primarily because of unexpected events which occur in everyday life, e.g. Doorbell, telephone, or needing a toilet etc. So seeing as your about to lose, or in some cases have just started to play, you may as well concede. However, obviously the problem arises when you have an abandoned game as a consequence of defaulting the fixture of answering the phone / door and that is where this suggestion can prevent this dilema from happening.

Therefore, if this suggestion can be implemented, there will be no disruption to everyday life or your funkypool profile, just a loss and a loss of ranking.
dgeneratio
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18:56 Thu 24 Feb 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
and if you leave its only an abandon stat, loss of rank (if you play ranked) and loss on profile.

i can just see this annoying some people like the concede button in power (far as i know in real life pool and power snooker you can't concede as you can win and not just that but disrupt a runout/7 balling/ 100+ break chance which people can get annoyed about)

in real life snooker you can concede as you can be so far ahead (with so many on the table).
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19:04 Thu 24 Feb 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
i think the benefit will be that it will become apparent who was genuinely conceding and who was using the early gg as a distraction tactic , therefore outing the bad sports
joker86
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21:29 Thu 24 Feb 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
We have to remember that EVERYONE would have this option if it was to be implemented.

Being able to concede the game whenever you like (including on your opponents turn) will cause problems, that is a fact!

If your opponent is very close to a run out and you decide to concede, this would obviously not be because you will lose but the frustration that they have the chance to gain a run out and in turn you would have the power to end that. This is the same for Straight run.

I agree that some things in real life (Someone at door or phone) would obviously need more attention when and if they arise but this shouldn't mean that the other player should be penalised (eg, Straight run or run out).

It would be abused more than used genuinely.
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21:31 Thu 24 Feb 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
Just leave the game....that concedes it
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22:41 Thu 24 Feb 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
joker86 said:

Being able to concede the game whenever you like (including on your opponents turn) will cause problems, that is a fact!

If your opponent is very close to a run out and you decide to concede, this would obviously not be because you will lose but the frustration that they have the chance to gain a run out and in turn you would have the power to end that. This is the same for Straight run.


It's not a fact that it will cause problems. If it is implemented like when a person leaves the game, the frame doesn't stop until the other player either finishes it off or misses a shot and then obviously the frame is stopped.

I think this could be a good feature used for straight, if you're a fair way behind maybe in a tournament you may want to concede
joker86
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00:53 Fri 25 Feb 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
kev04 said:
joker86 said:

Being able to concede the game whenever you like (including on your opponents turn) will cause problems, that is a fact!

If your opponent is very close to a run out and you decide to concede, this would obviously not be because you will lose but the frustration that they have the chance to gain a run out and in turn you would have the power to end that. This is the same for Straight run.


It's not a fact that it will cause problems. If it is implemented like when a person leaves the game, the frame doesn't stop until the other player either finishes it off or misses a shot and then obviously the frame is stopped.

I think this could be a good feature used for straight, if you're a fair way behind maybe in a tournament you may want to concede


It is a fact depending on how this would be implemented, but still that is exactly the same as leaving the game now depending on how serious you are about ranks.

Like I said, this is pool and the game does not finish until the last ball has been potted, I would prefer to chance my opponent missing than giving up but I understand opinions vary of course.

As for tournaments, I tend to make sure I can commit to a tournament before entering it, playing let's say a straight game after you have just joined a tournament is not the best idea.

EDIT: If you concede you obviously won't lose any rank so, what exactly would the opponent (who did not concede) gain?

EDIT 2: Also remember that conceding is a form of admitting defeat, therefore you have lost the game. Why bring in something we already have?


Edited at 23:06 Thu 24/02/11 (GMT)
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