ok here's a thought although if it has been passed about b4 then fair enough and point me in the right direction.

ideally it is for a change in straight pool, so here goes.

i know that the whole 1st foul (-1), 2nd foul (-1) and
3rd foul (-ridiculous) is it 20 or more cant rem don't often see it, but anyway, i feel that it would be a lot fairer in straight if the player who committed the foul could be made to play again. this is due to the advantage taken at times by the person who fouls, sometimes on purpose.

yes so the next player could also foul leading up to the initial 'foulers' 3rd shot whereby he/she could lose out big time with the -ridiculous or even gain a fluke by twakking the pack (if ya's get my drift).

so basically figure that option to make other player play again after a foul would be better

Don't seem to bad an idea as far as i can say and you sound like a cumbrian with all them words lol, you gotta be from up north

Wooooooohooooooooooooo Cumbria!!

3rd foul -15

If the rules were changed to allow the striker of a foul a follow on shot, we would have members in uproar requesting for the change back.

Firstly, I could see members who have a difficult shot, deliberately fouling in order that they have a follow on shot as they have just fouled!

Secondly, the person who has just been penalised for a foul would gain advantage , if they were to successfully pot a ball on the follow on shot after a foul, possibly leading to a significant run, leaving the opponent who should have been playing staring defeat in the face due to dis opponent gaining the upperhand from a foul.

I feel that there should be no change to a follow on shot for a player who has fouled, deliberately or not.

this coming from you who deliberate fowls in 8 ball to gain advantage even tho your one of the best

as you say sometimes it has to be done

Have to disagree, using the fouling system can work to your advantage in tough situations, or worse if they twakk the pack.

You cant always bend the rules just because of what they'e like in real life - not too long ago in UK the rules changed so you dont have the carry on 2 shots, then they changed it back and depending on how good you are depends on the rules IRL.

He said option - so would be at the descretion of the opponent of the person fouling (just like in snooker - or a push out in 9 ball)



More of a personal 'name and shame'-like comment but 8 us is completely different to straight - usually deliberate fouls come about from the opponent refusing to pot or in a 'deadlock' situation

Personally i think its fine as is (although i wouldn't particularly object to a change)

Its just like in 9 ball where if the balls lie right - you can tap balls onto the current lowest after the opponent fouls (fouling yourself) but giving your opponent no way of getting to that ball

there was a video of that happening in real life in a proper game somewhere on the forums

Yes, here it is:



Enjoy!

loony.........is that not 9 ball?

Yes it's 9 ball but there's a good example of the strategy of deliberate fouling that was talked about earlier.

well i think it would improve the game

i think its ok as it is fairly but i would like a pass back option i know you can just pot the white but i don't like to do it.

i hear ya m8.....i think anyone who plays pretty much hates to play a foul shot, i no i do.

depends if you gain the advantage from the foul shot you play, for example here he gained the advantage and then went on to win from it. It's all about using tactics and molding the 3shot foul into how your going to play.


Clooney - lovely vid! enjoyed watching that!

Personally I would like the option of putting my opponent back in after a foul, deliberate or not. Like anything else in the game it is a judgement for you to make and you either get it right or wrong. I do find it rather annoying that you can play a good safety shot only to watch a deliberate foul and be back in with no choice. The "if your opponent smashes and pots argument" is just a chance you take, though this could be diminished by the game moving to nominated pockets. (Yes I know it's off thread topic). Tho as topic is fouls this would also deal with the irritating double pot punishment you can get.

wondered wot happened to this 1 and thot i'd bring it back to page 1 as i think is a perfectly legitimate rule to bring in.

quite simple to give player choice after opponent fouls.
come on back me up here peeps