i dont know if this has been discussed before but i am coming across more and more players that are making illegal breaks on 9 ball. the rules need to change to reflect the world rules where atleast 4 balls have to hit the cushion after a break off.

players are now tapping breaks in order for the white ball to come off the side cushion and snooker behind the rack without any other balls touching cushion - thus gaining an immediate advantage.
the rules need to change immediately i am shocked this rule wasnt implemented when the game was made.

Edited at 22:13 Wed 11/08/10 (BST)

this is funkypool

and your point being?

If what he says is standard 9 ball rules (and that's a big if, and probably subject to plenty different answers), change it imo. We have similar rules in killer breaks so no technical problem doing it, and even if this is funkypool there's no need to use that as an argument for keeping it away from "normal" game rules either.

Funky meaning, "Not everything is perfect" It's "Funky" as in "Different style".

What would the point be in having perfect rules when the site is "funkypool".

2.3 Legal Break Shot
The following rules apply to the break shot:
(a) the cue ball begins in hand behind the head string; and
(b) if no ball is pocketed, at least four object balls must be driven to one or more rails, or the shot is a foul.

Taken from the WPA website http://www.wpa-pool.com/index.asp?content=rules_9ball

Although I will say that the other games have rules which are not in the 'official' rules, such as 8 Ball GB's and multiple pots on Straight.

Edited at 22:38 Wed 11/08/10 (BST)

"players are now tapping breaks in order for the white ball to come off the side cushion and snooker behind the rack without any other balls touching cushion - thus gaining an immediate advantage"

when i played ya thats exactly what u did to me lmao

I think i may be missing something as it doesn't seem so simple to answer but....

Couldn't that advantage be negated with a pushout?

As zante has pointed out!

"The player who plays immediately after a legal break may play a push out. In a push out, the cue ball is not required to make any contact with a ball or rail. The player must announce their intention of playing a push out by pressing the white hand icon underneath the cue ball spin control."

By using the push out, the should be no disadvantage!

good point Jim and Zante - push out.

Ive used a push out effectivly a few times when this has happened.

At least a little less so than you would otherwise have been.

In the end of the day, vs. a good player, you will still face another thin cut + cueball hit cushion + cueball end up dead into the pack though, but that's well played and well deserved if so.

Still a fairly easy shot to accomplish a very nasty effect, but considering how extremely few times I have ever seen something like that happen (strangely enough), it's hardly a huge problem.

Sorry in my opinion this will only go one way.

After your opponent has made the break you have the option to push out.

however - after you push out your opponent has the option of putting you straight back in - so in my opinion - no advantage

the "funky" in funkypool is misunderstood a lot on this site as I dont think it means pool without the proper rules - dgeneratio and damee have pointed this out before - if it is a rule, then it should be implemented

Thanks

Emily

xoxoxo

That depends entirely on how well you use your pushout, now doesn't it?

Remember you can use the pushout precisely as you wish - including a 1 pixel tap, leaving the original breaker in a completely messed up situation (since the pushout is not an option for him)

but then they put you straight back in so its you in the messed up situation

If I remember correctly when you nominate a 'Push Out', you're opponent(The breaker) has the option to make the push out player to continue rather than continue him/herself.

It works both ways to be honest.

If the breaker choose's to play a slow break, the opponent can nominate a push out... from there it works both ways weather the breaker wants his/her opponent to continue or not.

I think it depends on HOW the push out is played as most people use that option tactically.

The only advantage's I see the breaker having are the golden break and a run out in my opinion.

funky means this site can be run on old machines not because rules are different.

You have a much better, and easier, opportunity to play the opponent into a bad spot on your pushout shot, than he does in return....

Remember you have no requirements to your shot AT ALL, short of actually having the cue make contact with the cueball...

Your opponent is in turn subject to all the regular requirements of a legal 9 ball shot (ball touch cushion after first impact etc)

Ah true, that defeats the purpose quite a bit, and returns us to the state where the break is in fact quite bad and should be adjusted toward the "real" rules.

Following a legal push out, the incoming player is allowed to play from that position or to pass the shot back to the player that played the push shot. Again they need to choose this by clicking the blue arrow icon underneath the cue ball spin control image.