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Was on last night on channel 4. I watched this and it was in sync with the BBC, amazing how he got it right, but how did he do it? Revealed friday at 9pm BST.

Edited at 13:52 Thu 10/09/09 (BST)

Edited at 13:53 Thu 10/09/09 (BST)

wow ill be watchign friday me thinks

Amazing how he got it WRONG Damee? lol

And likely to be some slight of hand or something, otherwise you'll have a lot of people going out Saturday putting the Lotto on with Derren's method

Also Damee, 9PM GMT? We are in BST here, so is it the first programme at 9PM or second programme at 10PM

Right im off to bed early tonight

Was amazing i thought. The white balls with the numbers on them were never out of sight so i dont see how he could of cheated. The guys freakly brilliant.

i've heard that he did cheat cause for one how do we know the draw itself was LIVE cause the bbc have been known to rig stuff like in voting, they could of pre-recorded it.
another note if it did all happen live why is he not rich or anythink like that as i've been told he and his family are not rich.

so was it live or pre-recorded?

All sorts of theories being thrown about, but will find out in 24 hours!

Could be time delay... Transmission from the BBC studios then has to be processed and transmitted on Channel 4, they could have someone in the BBC studio calling the numbers out by phone?

It's a good job I'm babysitting tomorrow... means the kids are in bed and I have the TV to myself!

time delay from bbc to tv arial is 1 second, radio is 0.5 seconds any channal to DVB and radio DAB (freeview, sky ect) is about 3 to 5 seconds so from bbc to c4 to are homes will take a total of 3 seconds to 10 seconds depending what c4 used, but i don't think that he was told the numbers via phone as there was a peice of paper in his hand with the numbers on it.

Edited at 23:29 Thu 10/09/09 (BST)

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Just the split screen of More4 and BBC1

Surely its crap... he is an illusionist after all..

Of course it is, but it will still be good knowing how he did it.

What are you doing still up then posting

But one theory is that he had some printer thing by the balls when the numbers were done, they printed numbers on the balls after. But like the hoss racing one, there is probably some sort of formula used

Think about it if the draw was pre recorded why would the BBC give Channel 4 ( a main rival) a tape of the lottery for a stunt which would clearly draw veiwers away from they're own channel.

Also right above me Warney says there might of been a printer infront of the white balls. Do you not think we would of noticed that?

It will be interesting to see how he done it. Remeber David Blaine in the glass box for 44 days with no food or water? That was clearly an illusion aswell , but still really cool.

watching the 1st video closely i never noticed any of the balls move, anythink moving inside of that thingy whatever it's called so i don't see a "printer" or "stamping" also the balls look a little tight as when he tapped the ball on his right the left ball moved. (all that text is for warney and mod_god)

i still belive that it is a fix also he won't reveal how he really done it.

Anyone seen National Treasure? I'm sure it happens in other things but I remember it in that... You record the whole image for a certain time then with some clever editing, show just half of it live and the other half is just a repeat of what's already gone.

This means he's completely live, as is the feed. So he's not lying at all, however, while he's doing this the second camera man (I did think it odd there were 2) changes the balls as the numbers were read out. The shot then returns to the whole image when he goes across, reveals the magic numbers.

Otherwise why would he write them down? He could have turned them around as they were read out.


This is my theory to it anyway.

That's a good theory and I think I'm going to agree with you!



35 minutes until its on?

Or is it 10PM?

9 pm

5 minutes!

Who is watching?

Edit - And cheers

i am I am!!! lol