can we take the time limit off the finals ?? even if its just straight ball? i just watched a game of 2 "intermediates" which havent won many if none tournaments before. and they got DQ which i felt kinda . PLEASE THINK ABOUT IT

i was more annoyed at my opponent taking 20 seconds to take her go just about every shot when it was obvious in the last 3 minutes who was going to win , it would be a good idea if only the slower player is dq or like you say take away the time limit for finals

very annoyed that i potted the 35th ball before the forfeit warning came up

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I agree the time limit from finals should be removed. There's enough pressure on the two players, and if it's a defensive game, the last thing they want to do is take a risk that will cost them the match. There's also a certain player who tends to end up in most of the dqed finals, only because of his defensive style. What's the point of being great defensively if you end up struggling to complete the final?

If I'm right in thinking that straight tournament finals are still first to one.

http://www.funkypool.com/member/jooodles/results


Then jooodles' results say that she did infact win.

The results say she won the game. But the tournament page and her stats say no tournament was win. And it's 'orrible...

This exact same thing happened before. A player potted the winning black in a tourney and although his results showed him winning the frame, the actual result was DQ-DQ. Read about it here: http://www.funkypool.com/viewTopic.do?topicid=14214

I knew I remembered it happening before, and I knew it was going to be you that pointed it out

Needs to be fixed, one way or another.

Post removed by rogan due to the doubleness.

I have to say this has to be the biggest single bug and flaw in the whole programming of an otherwise excellent site.

If two players don't complete the game in time, and dq under time limited playing conditions, then so be it. In those circumstances when you look at the players results there is nothing there.

However where the system recognises the result of a game, and posts it in both players results page, then for the same system not to be able to recognise the actual winner of the tournament is completely wrong and needs to be corrected by nick as a priority. As cloone says it has happened a few times before including to me in an 8 ball speed final.

I actually personally think there should still be a time limit in finals as this is meant to be fun at the end of the day not a war of attrition

I am not sure if it can be done manually but in my opinion jooodles ought to have the tournament win added to her profile, along with for any other player that this happens to in future until the problem is fixed.

Emmm... isn't this a little self-defeating?



Agreed

why self-defeating?

its very rare to have dq's - and i for one personally wouldnt want some boring long drawn out match that could go on for ages with one player (or both) deliberately trying to strangle the life out of the game.

Its supposed to be a fun online game that people log on to when they have spare time. If you can only play for a certain amount of time why should an opponent be able to slow you down or bore you to death so that you run out of time and have to leave handing them the win. (Thats assuming of course that you can't play your own style to counteract them and beat them quickly)

In those circumstances no reward for either player is justified so the double dq is a good thing.

1. So... by making both players hurry, it ensures the fun?

2. If an opponent slows down and bores you to death, he/she can only do this for so long. Eventually you will either set him/her up and he/she will clear up, or you make a break yourself and defeat him/her. Or you both play that way. Or you set him/her up, and he/she continues to slow down and bore you to death, thereby not chasing the win, thereby leaving you with every chance to win. In every case, however, victory is the goal of each player, no matter how fast or slowly it is achieved.

In the case of a friendly (or even a ranked game) of 90 second shot length, should the game engine interfere after, say, 10 minutes of tight play and say "Warning: 5 minutes left" or something?

1. No it ensures a result - win lose or dq - but on a fair basis (with everyone knowing the playing conditions in advance) rather than on the basis that a player might have to leave because the amount of time he has set him/herself to play is exceeded through deliberate slow play.

2. Yes exactly right however every round is timed to benefit and enhance the experience of all - why should that change in a final?
If you dont want timed finals then you have to do away with all timed rounds in the interest of fairness to all - but that wont and cant happen.

1. But there is a 20 second shot limit... Games like you describe cannot go on forever.

2. Timed rounds exist so that the following round is not delayed for an unusually long period. In the final, there is no following round.

I have to agree with Cloone here. There is a proper reason for the time limit in Rounds 1 - Semi Final. In the final, a time limit just adds pressure, and if your a first time finalist or just a natural bottler, the time limit will just hurt even more.

Why should the playing conditions change for one last game from what they were previously? Does that happen anywhere else?

Yes.

Champions League final: one match, decided on the night, whereas the three previous rounds are over two legs. The finale is given the showpiece attention it deserves.

After the 2006 World Cup final which went to penalties, there was talk of subsequent drawn finals going to a replay. This would be at odds with the previous rounds which all go to penalties after drawn extra time.

I think time limits should remain on the final, and throughout all of the rounds, to encourage people to go for the win, but they could be extended by a few minutes so that those of us who like to play safe, can play that way without the worry of a DQ.

But cloone - penalties are there to bring a result lol - hell there have been some finals that could have gone on forever lmao

but talk hasnt changed it and neither will it

We need people to go for the win in the earlier rounds so that the competition doesn't get delayed. No such condition in the final.

Let me put it this way. What is the only reason time limits exist in tournaments? Why aren't they in friendlies or ranked games?

True, but they also exist in two-legged games as well