Yoda how can you say not going to the games makes you a lesser fan?

Thats Rubbish. Have you seen the price of tickets to get to a game these days? Some people cantafford to go to games week in week out. That dont make them any less of a fan.

Got to agree with da_chump. Football costs a fortune. I am a die hard 'well fan but I simply can't afford to go to as many games as I would like to. Got mouths to feed, mortgage to pay etc.

Yeh, football ticket prices are a joke nowadays.

Here's a random price from last season:

Rangers v Gretna Adult:£28 juv and conc: £15

Not that bad if alone, but, imagine your taking your child/friend/partner or whatever. Including food and getting home, It builds up.

I noticed it was £50 for a Rangers v Barcelona ticket last season, and now Rangers are claiming to be skint? Seriously?

well you wont have too pay European match price's this season.

The mighty Saint tommorow. Got a feeling it going to be Celtic 0 - 2 St.Mirren.

hopefully not.

I wish it did end 2-0 to the Saints.

I think it will be 4-0 to Celtic though. Saints already have their 2 best midfielders ruled out along with Dargo. (Not concerned about Dargs, he'd just give us 5 offsides.) Also Haining, Spanish Guy and Miranda are concerns, and may not play. We could be missing half our best 11 for this match, I don't look forward to it.

Edited at 23:26 Sat 9/08/08 (BST)

Old Firm prices are way beyond the rest. I've noticed that away tickets to both stadiums are rip offs compared to the likes of Falkirk, and Parkhead is even a restricted view.

Right the lads I'm going to throw some facts at you for prices.

Celtic season tickets cost the most at around £350 whereas second highest is amazingly Hamilton.

Falkirk are cheapest at £180 which I think is awesome. Keep the fans happy and the will flock. Good work Falkirk. I honestly can't believe I just said that .

My old season ticket was about £500 for Celtic but that inclueded European games , Old firm games and cup games.

But i stopped going when my dad said i was old enough to pay for my own season ticket.

Saints were unlucky today, i reckon if they never gave Celtic a penalty it would have been a draw, Celtic were genuinley not good enough today. Same with Rangers yesterday too.

Hearts off to a flyer beating Motherwell 3-2 (sorry spenny!) And Hibernians pre season losing streak seems to be soiled into the season, after a 1-0 loss at Kilmarnock.

Odds are against Hamilton tomorrow night, with Dundee Utd to win 4-1 at 12/1.

Our back 4 and keeper were brilliant yesterday, no doubt keeping us in the game. If Haining hadn't made that error by giving away a pen and being sent off, we could have taken a point, or even a shock win.

Mehmet was also really unlucky to hit the post. Had that gone in, it could have been our game. However, playing a 4-5-1 just doesn't work against the Old Firm, you create a maximum of three chances a game.

As for tonight, I think Accies and Dundee United will draw 1-1.

Just watched the highlights, and I think it was a poor decision by the ref to award a penalty and send Haining off. Venegoor was holding Haining's shirt as well, and fell over trying to hit the shot. I doubt it should have even been a booking for Haining.

However, I've got to admit Celtic should have been given a penalty earlier when Mark Howard fouled Venegoor, so the penalties cancel out. Sending off was harsh though, and if we have any sense, we should appeal it.

Scoring 2 goals away from home and losing the game is hard to take

On a positive note, Clarkson scored both. Hope George Burley is keeping him in mind for the national team

Didn't Clarkson score when we had that friendly against Czech Republic?

Yes , he did.

Well I bet the Hamilton score would've burst a few coupons

Hamilton Accies 3 - 1 Dundee Utd

Well done Hamilton

Very good for Accies. The usual "just promoted team is going down" crap has yet again been outdone, this time Accies putting in a great performance to silence their critics. A great result for them, and should be the first of many good results to keep them safe.

Hotstuby will be pleased

I'm not a big fan of Celtic or Rangers, my favourite SPL team are Motherwell from what I've seen, but I don't watch much SPL so I can't really judge.

so stoked for accies beating dundee

Cuellar sold to Villa for 8 Million.

Outrage, get Murray out!

I thought Cuellar would have moved to a bigger club than Villa, looking at how good he is. Great signing for them. As for Rangers...