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Deleted User
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21:09 Thu 21 Feb 08 (GMT)  [Link]  
In the past I used to have players intentionally following me round to each new game I created, and yes its fairly annoying. Basically I just gave in and played them, took their points and they got fed up and left.

So if your good enough the solution is to play them and take those points

Perhaps the game owner should have the power to mute/kick users watching the game as some people get distracted by onlookers chatting (in some cases they try to put one player off, normally trying to help their friend in a tournament).

I dont tend to mind who I play, rank isnt everything, having fun is the aim of the game

EDIT: speellling mistacke

Edited at 03:11 Fri 22/02/08 (GMT)
luckypot
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07:07 Fri 22 Feb 08 (GMT)  [Link]  
dark_cloud said:
Perhaps the game owner should have the power to mute/kick users watching the game as some people get distracted by onlookers chatting (in some cases they try to put one player off, normally trying to help their friend in a tournament).


This is when you should use the 'ignore user' function, that way you are unable to get dsitracted by them, because you cannot see what they are writing, and if you are still distracted by your opponent talking to them, you can also (even if you are friends with them), place that user on ignore also. You can ignore/unignore users as many times as you wish.

I disagree with the idea of being able to boot players from your room, I find it completely un-necessary. I personally feel that a filtered game system, where-by rooms can be filtered in terms of rank. (much like the way you can filter results from tournaments, to ranked, to friendly).

I also saw the word 'mute' there... that is pretty much what ignoring does.
kwan
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07:10 Fri 22 Feb 08 (GMT)  [Link]  
yorkie_87 said:
id be suprised if this hasnt been suggested before but, i want to have a boot player button for use by the game owner only and only when a game isnt in progress. (booted to lobby only not from site) come on lets face it, there will always be the losers that wont leave or even worse stay and keep firing insults.

example, earlier i left a room 4 times cause another user wouldnt only for them to keep joining my new game. sorry to babble on but this is a very annoying issue.



already has been suggested by myself for certain powers

http://www.funkypool.com/viewTopic.do?topicid=12175&page=1

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07:52 Fri 22 Feb 08 (GMT)  [Link]  
luckypot said:


This is when you should use the 'ignore user' function, that way you are unable to get dsitracted by them, because you cannot see what they are writing, and if you are still distracted by your opponent talking to them, you can also (even if you are friends with them), place that user on ignore also. You can ignore/unignore users as many times as you wish.

I disagree with the idea of being able to boot players from your room, I find it completely un-necessary. I personally feel that a filtered game system, where-by rooms can be filtered in terms of rank. (much like the way you can filter results from tournaments, to ranked, to friendly).

I also saw the word 'mute' there... that is pretty much what ignoring does


but that doesnt stop them from following you around, im my opinion, the 2nd most common way of annoying people (after messagign and IN MY OPINION!)
luckypot
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12:26 Sat 23 Feb 08 (GMT)  [Link]  
To be honest, what harm does it cause them 'following you around' If you cannot see what they are writing, and you are joining games, rather than creating them?
janmb
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16:15 Mon 25 Feb 08 (GMT)  [Link]  
luckypot said:
To be honest, what harm does it cause them 'following you around' If you cannot see what they are writing, and you are joining games, rather than creating them?


While I definitely agree that the scope of this problem is microscopic, I do feel a lot of posters are turning this the wrong way around.

Yes, there ARE ways to avoid this from a game owner/creator perspective, but the question is: Should you have to?

Especially during off-peak hours, joining games is often not an option if you wanna lay down some requirements of rank (or rather game quality). You have to create.

Should it be the responsibility of a game creator to remedy the problems created by harassing players by stop creating games?
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13:27 Tue 26 Feb 08 (GMT)  [Link]  
thankyou janmb, i think we understand the point of the initial thread.........being not to punish offenders but more to aid users wanting to play a certain type of opponent, be it wanting a hard or easy game.

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Any method of aiding loyal users has to be a possitive be it the filtering method or the choice to return a user into the lobby if a game is not in progress if they dont meet the game creators requirements.

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Lets face it, the create a game function remains slightly pointless if we cannot have any real power as game creators.

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If it is not seen as important to make sure the games creator's requirements are met, we all may aswell just play users randomly!
justsumgirl
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01:19 Wed 27 Feb 08 (GMT)  [Link]  
sorry spinner but this is the first time I have to disagree with you as well. What if this person just keeps following you around? What if this person keeps pestering you all day long and where ever you go, you just can't get rid of them??

1) Put said person on ignore

2) Make your game private and invite whoever you'd like to play and watch

3) Enjoy!

Ta-daaaaaaaaaaaa

~Paula~
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08:53 Wed 27 Feb 08 (GMT)  [Link]  
and if theres no 1 close to your rank you just invite any 1???????????

i know what your saying buts its not always feasable.

All we ask is 1 small rank filter option when creating a game therefore "more power for game owners"

i dont see many down points and it wouldnt be too much hassle to immplement.
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10:11 Wed 27 Feb 08 (GMT)  [Link]  
if they follow you around you should just ignore them, if you want to have a private game with someone else, make it invite only
janmb
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12:32 Thu 28 Feb 08 (GMT)  [Link]  
justsumgirl said:
2) Make your game private and invite whoever you'd like to play and watch


Quite a few people (your's truly included) happens to find it quite rude and out of line to both go around tossing invites to random people you don't know - as well as getting such invites yourself.

Not saying this is or should be a rule, but quite a few people consider it a basic matter of etiquette.
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12:48 Thu 28 Feb 08 (GMT)  [Link]  
janmb said:
justsumgirl said:
2) Make your game private and invite whoever you'd like to play and watch


Quite a few people (your's truly included) happens to find it quite rude and out of line to both go around tossing invites to random people you don't know - as well as getting such invites yourself.

Not saying this is or should be a rule, but quite a few people consider it a basic matter of etiquette.

then play against people who you find on chat rooms? that you've had a convo with

Edited at 18:49 Thu 28/02/08 (GMT)
spinner
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16:33 Thu 28 Feb 08 (GMT)  [Link]  
Quoting myself to save typing it again:

spinner said:
hcafc1 said:

If you are eg an 850 player, you should be more than capable of beating a 700 player.

If you do not choose to play them then you are artificially keeping your rank higher than it should be, and you are therefore
not worthy of being the rank you are.


lord_snooker said:
i agree with damee the reason we dont play lower ranked players is the little points we acheive

but i find that even tho they are lower ranked they always get fluky and win lol and then take lots of points haha


You just proved his point i'm afraid.

As already mentioned, the ranking system is set up so it doesnt matter who you play.

All the consistantly best players (over years, not months or weeks) are those who play everyone.

I've just realised a very simple fix to a long running issue.

Introduce rank-limited access to games, but only for friendlies.

That way, if you are using it properly (to play a player of similar ability for a challenge) it matters very little, as rank won/lost is small. However, it prevents people using it to artificially maintain a high rank by never playing lower ranked players, who are capable of beating them, in ranked games.

That would benefit everyone.


Regarding problems with users watching, thats why pivate games and the ability to ignore users was introduced.

For rare occasions this may be necessary for users who dont like to play in silence, the option of ignoring all chat (except announcements etc) has been mentioned and is an excellent idea.
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02:07 Fri 29 Feb 08 (GMT)  [Link]  
All the consistantly best players (over years, not months or weeks) are those who play everyone.


janmb
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07:22 Sat 1 Mar 08 (GMT)  [Link]  
dr35d3n said:
All the consistantly best players (over years, not months or weeks) are those who play everyone.




Technically both right and wrong.

If rerolls/resets didn't exist and every player at all times was playing on a rank correctly reflecting his/her skill level, it would be completely irrelevant who you play - in that regard, the rank weight system works perfectly.

The problem, and what makes the system less than perfect, is when you introduce the fact that not all players play on a rank that correctly reflects their skill.

The only way this hurts other players is when people are playing with a lower rank than their skill suggests. And since this category is only found in the lower rank segments, high rank players are cautious of playing such players
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18:07 Tue 20 May 08 (BST)  [Link]  
I think there should be a boot button available for the owner of the game. Just tonight i had a newbie join my game i politley said ''sorry nothing personal but no newbies'' and he just hurled abuse at me. I then created a new game and he followed me.

I also think that people who you are ignoring shouldnt be allowed to enter your games.

Also as a member said rank limited games are a good idea because some people just listen.

Please create a boot button or some way to get rid of them.

Edited at 23:11 Tue 20/05/08 (BST)
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18:09 Tue 20 May 08 (BST)  [Link]  
janmb said:
dr35d3n said:
All the consistantly best players (over years, not months or weeks) are those who play everyone.




Technically both right and wrong.

If rerolls/resets didn't exist and every player at all times was playing on a rank correctly reflecting his/her skill level, it would be completely irrelevant who you play - in that regard, the rank weight system works perfectly.

The problem, and what makes the system less than perfect, is when you introduce the fact that not all players play on a rank that correctly reflects their skill.

The only way this hurts other players is when people are playing with a lower rank than their skill suggests. And since this category is only found in the lower rank segments, high rank players are cautious of playing such players


So true.

Edited at 23:10 Tue 20/05/08 (BST)
Deleted User
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21:19 Tue 20 May 08 (BST)  [Link]  
This is a brilliant idea....they have a boot button and yahoo which i think is well needed
Deleted User
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22:44 Wed 21 May 08 (BST)  [Link]  
I'm really sorry guys I'll stop with the stalking!!! Lol just kidding. I do think there needs to be something done I don't always want to play people I know so I create open games and I get the players who come in play one game and refuse to hit the rack balls button and refuse to get out of the room so another can join. Before you know it there are 5 different games under my name. Also I don't play ranked ever because I am really bad at pool so rank really isn't an issue with me, just thought I'd throw that in there.
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09:36 Fri 23 May 08 (BST)  [Link]  
good point there by zippy,

i think seen as there is such confidence in the ranking system, then we just need to focus on the harrassment side!

sometimes you just dont get on with an opponent, or you know they are a hustler/rank ripper (there's many out there)

so simply for ranked games, block access to the game room for all users on the ignore list.

This would deffinately resolve the situation!
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