i don't like the random time limit penalty shot. what do others think ?

Edited by forum moderator spinner, at 22:17 Mon 4/06/07 (BST)

I think that when the random shot occurs, it should be a foul shot. Only seems fair to me.

That's why it's a random shot wolvesdude, the srever does any random shot automatically without hesitation of where the ball will go and sometimes you could just get unlucky by getting snookered, it's happened to me many times, doesn't matter though. I see where your coming from, it would be a good idea if the random shot was just a foul shot, but i'm also happy with thw way its set-up at this present moment

i just think it would improve the game if the random shot didnt occur and it was classed as a foul instead, would stop random flukes happening and stop people losing points because of having to waste a shot gettin out of snookers, the server should be destroyed lol

Editied to make it half readable.

Wolvesdude - you have been warned several times to abide by the posting rules for this forum and use plain english. I actually shortened some of the words you used so "txt spk" doesnt save time at all!

Edited by forum moderator spinner, at 22:21 Mon 4/06/07 (BST)

I can't stand the random shot penalty.

Simply because of the explaination above, it's happened many times to me in 8 ball, and combo shots win them the game in 9 ball even though they are not present?

I mean seriously, what if in real life a player wasn't at the table? would the ball just move on it's own? Doubt it.

Edited at 19:51 Mon 4/06/07 (BST)

But in real life, if a player went to the toilet, would it be a foul?

Unfortuantely toilet breaks arent possible in online pool. I personally think the random time shot penalty should be removed and and the opponant just be awarded 2 shots as the table lies.
Its possible you have worked hard to set up many balls, which can be ruined by the random shot, which isnt an advantage.
Also, its possible the random shot pots a ball, which is also unfair.
Very flawed way of dealing with things.

Exactly mate, least someone finally agrees with me, i mean...who actually LIKES the random shot penalty?

I do!

I think its great and really adds to the fun of the game.

I once lost a semi final to a random shot

As i've mentioned each time this comes up, you have to remember that ususally its not the users fault they miss the shot. Mine are invariably due to lag.

The simple fact is it is supposed to replace the shot the player would have taken. No foul has been commited so why award one?

The chances of the random shot being better than the average players shot would have been are extremely slim.

''The simple fact is it is supposed to replace the shot the player would have taken. No foul has been commited so why award one? ''

Whats the point in the time limit then?

To keep the game moving..

i agree too, it should be scrapped, would stop all this random stuff happenin, aint right if the person who doesnt play the shot wins points by flukes caused from the random shot thing, can it be deleted or is it too late to change it ?

In a real game there is not any time limits. On funkypool their obviously is. The aim of a "Foul", means that the player who commited the foul should in all cases be punished. Take Snooker for example, 4 points or more are given to an opponent when a foul is commited.

With a timer, giving the opponent a "Random shot" isn't really a punishment, as the shot itself can be good or bad for the player who fouled, where as in all other cases such as football/snooker/golf there is punishment and not a chance that the perosn who commited the foul will not be punished for the foul they commited. Which is why a Random shot is not suitable in my opinion. Where as 2 shots to the player who did not commit the foul would be adequate.

Edited at 19:03 Tue 5/06/07 (BST)

But, as i said before, the player who is penalised by the random shot hasn't commited a foul.

As i said before, virtually all my random shot penalties are because of lag. Are you saying someone should have a foul awarded against them each time the suffer lag?

This thread is making me think i should let all my shots be random - it seems the random shot is a formidable opponent!

(and dont forget the player gets logged off after only 5 random shots, so they again get punished by losing the whole game!)

The only fair way besides random shots would be to remove the time limit altogether.

If you are in a game with a time limit and you exceed the limit then surely it is a foul

Well, there are tips floating around the forum on how to prevent lag from happening...I rarely get lag now, and when i do, i'd rather give away my shot rather than having an undeserved snooker or whatever.

Why don't we have a little trial, take away the random shot penalty, replace it with a concede shot penalty and find out how much it's missed.

The act of not taking your shot within the allocated time limit is in itself a foul. Full Stop.

This thread is making me think i should let all my shots be random - it seems the random shot is a formidable opponent! Spinner

Ha it is i played someone rubbish at 8ball last night and thet got three random shots in a row (dont know if they had lag or toilet or what as they didnt speak )
but in the three shots the first two potted balls perfectly and the third snookered me lol.
I still won the game tho

Point that out in the pool rule book scaley and i'll stand corrected.

Aside from the logical arguments presented above (no one can do anything about network lag, the kinda than means you miss parts of the game till it catches up) i'd simply hate to see one of the most fun parts of the game replaced by a boring foul.

Well how about compromise?

Maybe even taking it off the US games would do me.