If the writing is small there technically is less over-crowding... And also the over-crowding is no problem at all because the profiles can be stretched longer to make more room.

But there is no point leading this into an arguement now you've told me your opinion i've understood what you mean... Thanks for giving me your opinion on this

Whats leadin into an arguement (insert confused smiley)

Read our previous posts its turning into a debate fair enough I respect your point of view, thanks for it,afterall I did ask for people's opinions. No point taking this further now i've recieved your opinion. Much appreciated

I like your idea souljah, but i can see where em is coming from! Lets see what happens.

Thanks, I know where she is coming from too I do understand her opinion and respect it fully. Thanks for your opinion.

Edited at 01:07 Tue 29/05/07 (BST)

Hey new idea guys!

Since there is so much over-crowding and the things aprodite mentioned above. I think instead of having that 'tournament profile'on your stats bit. I reckon there could be another folder on your members page... If you look at the top left hand side of your member page showing your stats, there are two options saying 'profile' and 'events'.

Adding another folder called 'tournament profile' would not effect the over-crowding of your stats page at all. The 'tournament profile'would be a completely different section.

Your thoughts?

like that idea best souljah. very good thinking m8

Someone agrees!

cheers mate

http://www.funkypool.com/viewTopic.do?topicid=10377&page=1

This is a thread discussing similar matters

Very similar...

Because its this thread dude!

Whoops sorry! lol, excuse that link, its suppose to be this link below:

http://www.funkypool.com/viewTopic.do?topicid=10613

thats a great idea!!!

iit would say how good u do in tourny, and would show more than just how many you win, i like it!!!!

Someone argue against this. If you're on a ranking of 900 you shouldn't be worried about entering a tournament because you should count yourself as one of the favourites to win and if you do win it you'd have to be very unlucky for your ranking to drop.

For the life of me I completely fail to understand the arguement for not ranking the tournament games, but I'm not particularly bothered because most of the players with a half decent rank aren't as good as the better tournament players anyway where you can't pick and choose your opposition. In other words, the rankings are false.

Edited at 12:38 Mon 11/06/07 (BST)

I wont argue either point - as they say - you decide.

Someone enters tourney at 900 rank - wins 2-1 (we're assuming normal tourneys not speed tourneys here) in all rounds.

That means they lose rank in every round, despite winning the tournament.

However - this is good!

Why?

This player, if they are losing 33% of their games to considerably lower ranked players, have obviously only reached their lofty rank via playing selective opponents. Thus rendering their rank an impressive, yet false, achievement.

Solution : Rank all the games.

For those who REALLY care about rank, it will be excellent. For those who tiptoe in fear of losing, oh what a shame....

For those who play for tourney wins - who cares about your rank! Your tournament stats are what matter and you'll still end up with a rank that reflects your skill level...

Edited by forum moderator spinner, at 17:07 Wed 13/06/07 (BST)

Exactly.

you cant take points away in tourneys for losing frames if your not willing to give points out for winning tourneys overall, that aint right lol, its confusin, keep tourneys the way they are i reckon, but if they bring in losing points during tourney then they should bring in winning points in them overall aswell, dont forget in tournements you cant chose who you play, and people with high ranks woudl not chose to play newbies were they can possible lose poitns due to flukes, wont get half as many entering, which takes fun out of it as best players aint in it..

Edited at 13:59 Wed 13/06/07 (BST)

I strongly agree with you all, tournament games should not be ranked, it should be a little compromised with a 'tournament stats'folder, I personally think that will be a great idea not because I thought of the idea and want to take it foward but it would be good

Eh, there's arguments for both sides matey!

This is a valid point but what of the many excellent players who don't concentrate on their rank?

This would mean a player could be 'considerably lower ranked' but still the equal of their opponent. This player may have a rank of 700 but have an 80% win record and 50+ tournament wins. It again bring up the debate of whether rank is a true reflection of ability (but thats on another thread so I won't go into it!) but a situation like this cannot be fair to the higher ranked player

I was with you anaconda until the last bit - a period of the ranks levelling out would be required if tournament wins were ranked.

At the end of the day, no one can argue that the rankings aren't false because everyone arguing that tournament games shouldn't be ranked pretty much admit to picking and choosing their opposition in order to get a high rank in the first place!

A possible solution would be to halve the ranking points in tournaments, but the honest and proper solution to ensure rankings actually mean something is to rank tournaments fully.

Edited at 16:57 Wed 13/06/07 (BST)