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Craig you have Micros, Yes it seems like mostly mornings but you still have them.

If i had my way there would be 15 tournaments a day every 2 hours with more at peak time (7,9,11 pm, 11 would be a speed) that would mean spending most of the day may not work and would feature the night tournaments as base for tournaments, i think then anyone could win and not those who spend most of the day on here like it has been for years on both sites. Ranked, not Ranked i don't care.

Alternately either eliminate Ranked Tournaments so more rooms can be created or make the ranking scale better for normal games.

I do think Spinners (Chris mentioned it too?) idea of Only Ranked is an interesting one as your rank always changes and even guys like me who don't play ranked, our rank would change too.

I do think this site is past its cell buy date though and after 8+ years of commitment some guys may have moved on to other games. And the fact that these aren't available on New Technology is also a downer as eventually PC/Laptops may be extinct.

These won't bring me back playing full time, a new game mode would for a month or two but novelty again. Doubles could save Funky for a while if it can be done

Way it's going i could see Snooker going first but bless Staff for making Super Tournaments each weekend, may be an incentive to stay.

I do think Ranked Tournaments was the beginning of the end, One Ranked Tournament every 2-3 hours would be more game rooms i think.

Think reason theres more on Snooks is mainly because of guests not sure but normally picks up at end of April/start of May for World Championships, lets hope its the same this year.

Public/Standard Ranked games will only have value when the site gets its numbers up. 7 game types between 60 (av.online!?) people? Minus the 10 inactive, 8 in chat room, and 10-15 in tournaments leaves 27-32 people between the 7 game types. Nice average of 4 people per game type? Now take into account that more people play 8UK/Killer than anything else, so bias towards those types, you get 4 people in Straight, 0 in 8US, 1 in 9US (me normally ) 1 in 8arc 2 in 9arc something like that....

Just not enough people on the site for it to progress!

Thats because of Ranked Tournaments. Whats the point playing a normal game for 50% of the points, there isn't any. My suggestion is remove ranked tournaments and have a tournament every two hours then and only then will Public games have any value

I wouldn't say clans have ruined the site as such, there are far too many leagues though which contributes to that veiw. And I actually prefer ranked tournaments. The tournapoints is a waste of time though.

Fact is that its need released on other devices. However nick only made a practice one for i phones and has now gone and got a 9-5 so the site it doomed for now. And if/when he does come back it may just be too late to save it now.

Clans and ranked tournaments have killed this site.

ranked tournaments killed the game along with the rank deduction, tournament points am all for as its seperate..people disagree with me and will say this has been for the better... i ask how?? look at the site its dead now. revert and make this site what it was before..ive been on here nigh 10 years now and never seen it this bad,,

This ^ is something I fully agree with.

I would actually much prefer a large amount of ranked game choices as opposed to ranked tournaments. I think that people wouldn't reset as much if tournaments weren't ranked, sure you'll still get the odd muppet who can't handle the realisation that they're a bad player which is why they have so many losses so they reset, but primarily I think resets would decline.

How....how dare you!

TournaPoints are only one aspect. Yes for those events someone spending more time and playing more tournaments has a greater chance of winning than someone playing less. There is nothing wrong with that. It also makes sense as a site to reward people that spend more time on here. That said, TournaPoints didn't work for Micros as not everybody could enter them equally with them being limited to eight entrants.

Regarding tournament wins, there are now only two more per day than there were previously (leaving aside the period of two tournaments per hour), and that may possibly change shortly too. So other than tournaments having less average entrants, which we can't do anything about, numbers of tournament wins is the same achievement it always was.

The rank should be changed regardless? Well why and how if you keep ranked tournaments?

How do you tweak the ranking system back to how it used to be and keep ranked tournaments?

True but the rate we are going their will not be any public games remaining while we have ranked tournaments. In the professional game I understand their is ranked events but their are friendly ones too. Perhaps we should make them friendly but add some ranked as well.

I don't think rank has much meaning so I wish we could have a super event where the top 32 players are allowed to join.

To crazzy...

The ranking system only works now because of the ranked tournaments.

You can only take them away if you want to go back to high score tables as opposed to ranking tables.

To Seb...

Fully agree re the tablets but tournaments have been one per hour since at least 2006 when I started and it was never a problem then?

I'm actually pretty pleased that everyone has been able to contribute something towards an overall opinion. That overall opinion being that this site has slid downhill and that the general consensus would be to revert to previous formats. It's also good to see older players such as marc and onua giving their input as i feel these are the people that have experienced this site at it's peak and excelled while it was at it's peak.

I fully agree that tournaments are much less competitive now in comparison to previous, but as it is, with less and less players playing ranked games every day, ranked tournaments are the only way to get up the rankings. Even a mediocre player can run hot in a tournament and gain 20-30 rank even in a small field of players. This on it's own has it's merits and i think should be considered. Granted the prestige of a tournament win has declined, but the pull of tournaments in comparison to ranked games is obviously still there.

The bold section is spot on! I think it took me a year to my win first against some fantastic players! Just look at my profile this is an example I was in the top 25 for the most tournaments won with something like 140, and it took me years and felt a great achievement reaching the 100. On the new system players have done that in a few months! Yes you can tell I haven't won many since :) haha

I personally believe a lot of people have moved on because of family, jobs work etc! All the changes in the last few years have been made to attract new players and given funkypool a fresh new feel! Let's see what happens with the changes and I'm sure Admin will always do what's best for the site and it's members

Everyone does have good points to be honest, I don't think getting rid of straight and killer would help anything though, like someone said, I think that would probably make it worse.


Someone also said that going back to the 3 main tournaments every hour (8US, 8UK, and 9 ball) would kill off the new members.....that may or may not be true, the biggest addiction about this site, that some of the new players haven't ever experienced, was trying to win that first tournament. Back when you had at least 30 players joining every tournament and at least one top player in all of them, it actually felt like you achieved something when winning a tournament, it took months, maybe a year, to win my first tournament, but you had the motivation to keep coming back to the site with the thought of "I'll get good enough to beat these top players one day".

Unranked tournaments would probably be a good idea too, mainly because that's the whole reason no one will ever get near the top ranks again. 1 bad run off the balls or 1 tiny mistake and you lose up to 6 points in a match? And the opposite too...new players may not be achieving a high rank because they keep joining these tournaments and getting matched with top players in the 1st round.

Most people don't even play ranked matches unless they are on form, everyone used to join the tournaments just to be guaranteed more games and not have to stress about losing, or gaining, rank.

Apologies for the novel.

long as others who think they own it.

One, us long term players do not think we own this site, most of us want the site back to how it was because of how little people play now after the changes. A lot of people announced they were leaving from these changes. So it only makes sense to go back to how it was. Funkypool updated itself it didn't go as planned so now it can go back to where it was at it's best re-plan and think of something else. That's how progress works it's trial and error.

All these super high ranks players crow about, who cares.

Second, what is the point of the virtuoso rank if it's no longer attainable. With the current rank system it is a lot harder to tell who is what skill level than it was before. I've played a lot of 750s and the skill gap between each one is immense. Playing someone of that rank should be somewhat of a challenge each game yet at this point it's not always the case.

The old one were flawed hence the change

Third, if I'm correct this was only introduced because of ranked tournaments, meaning that the old one wasn't flawed but didn't fit with the new ranked tournaments.

I'd be in favour of a full site reset, and I'm in same position as you of losing my 931 rank in UK. Reset the site and go back in time to the set up of the site, schedule of tournaments, game types, the lot to how it was in the mid-2000s would be fantastic.

Just thought I would add this:

I just want to make sure you don't think I am blaming the community for the site's loss in players but it is a reason!

I don't know which order they came in but I'm sure ranked tournaments came before micros if I am correct it seems the micros were created as an attempt to bring back players that had left after tournaments becoming ranked. This all assuming I am correct in which came first.

I believe if the site were to go back to when tournaments were for bragging rights only and not for gaining rank quicker a lot more players would come back and more newcomers would stay longer!

You rework the ranking system, as I plan on regaining my virt 8UK at some point and at the moment it seems impossible for most players at this time!

The one thing so far that I've noticed that has changed and actually liked is premium now seems worth buying I LOVE the idea of the different type of cues you can get. The removed ads don't matter to me as I have a 25" monitor which i can zoom in with anyway.

Edited at 18:42 Tue 25/02/14 (GMT)

micros weren't the problem, ranked tournaments are!!! Im all up for a full site reset including records etc, and mine says I've been 930 in 9ball and killer. Im also sure that dvz onua dame etc wouldn't mind, and instead, we'd see all the top players back as they'd have a new goal. I think site traffic would go back near what it was 4-5 years ago, and non clan players would once again have the choice of game room, and we'd go back to having game room names such as 850 plus only ha, those were the days