i have had an idea which has been gathered from my previous posts, we should have a call game feature in the game to stop the cheeky ones getting a golden break in, and then leaving, or potting 3 balls before you get the chance to leave.

what you all think?

I don't quite understand it, what do you mean?

??? me eather ???

lol ok...

for example: say you are just about to pot the black for a win, right.
if you press the call game button, they cant go for the golden break on the next game and leave, and they can do the same to you.
basically, the call game feature im thinking of, is just a fancy way of leaving the game.
sounds insane but heyhey. just a daft idea of mine

Edited at 12:56 Fri 5/05/06 (BST)

so basically its a button to stop the opposition from breaking in the next game ... but that would meen theyd have to leave ?!

A better button would be an agree break button . Such as a player joins your game , you both have to press agree or ready button before the break can be played . This would let people see the rank of the player they are facing etc

You would then have to remove the 3 ball potted rule so people cant just golden break then leave ... This would work a hell of alot better.



Edited at 13:18 Fri 5/05/06 (BST)

yes force it would. i agree that would be a good idea.

This is the way, *ahem* yahoo pool works, and has been suggested many many times before.

I'm not really sure why it hasnt been implemented, but perhaps someone at admin will let us know.

This would also lead to the scrapping of the 3 ball rule which would be great. The only problem would be that a player rank would need to be hidden untill after the game had been started, that way you wouldnt get people picking who they play according to rank... (obviously this wont help with the more well known players, but theres nothing you can do about that! fame has its price, even on funkypool!)

It owul dbe better if you could see who you wer playing ... because if you dont wanna play some newbie then u shuddnt have to play some newbie .... spinner m8 that would take away out free choice COMPLETLEY .

We've been discussing it in other threads but it seems before we get to the end of a discussion a new thread is created and the same point is made again. Leading a circle of threads with no final point.

Regardless if I think it is a good idea, from all of admin agreeing it, to writing the code and putting up a new version, it is not instant.

I don't think we've discussed it enough to even talk about the coding yet, which is why it hasn't been implemented.

I am aware this has been discussed in many forms, but the one thing it highlights is that the 3 ball rule simply has to go. It has no other use, than abuse!

Force - I dont really understand what you mean there? Surely letting people see rankings etc before agreeing to the game would be removing the choice to play anyone you want?

(edit for clarity)

Edited at 18:37 Fri 5/05/06 (BST)

The 3 ball rule is fine so stop trying to get rid of it.

Maybe some people like playing high rankers as it's more of a challenge, if they join a newbies game and they quickly break, thats quite annoying.

Leave the 3 ball rule as it is!

But why join a newbies game if you wanna play a high ranking player??!?!?!?

Thats where that argument falls apart!

What about the endless cycle of pot two balls, opponent leaves, pot two balls, opponent leaves, pot two balls, opponent leaves....

But overwhelmingly, how can anyone argue that the game begins at any point other than at the break?

Thats where the idea of seeing peoples rank before they enter the game would come into play

if you could not see your opponents rank before playing then you would have to take the risk to see if you were playing someone with the skills you have . If you dont want to play a pushover which 90% of newbs are , then why would you want to waste your time playing this person .

Now if you could see the ranking of the player you were about to play then you would have the free choice of playing a person with a ranking to your standards as most people do any ways . I know many people have arguments with other players about there ranks and not leaving games when there under the specified rank but if what your suggesting is implemented we have no choice but to hit the play button if we want to play a game !!!

I think that people would rebel against this idea

Sorry if it sounds stupid im absolutly rckd out ma face lool ...

toodles

But overwhelmingly, how can anyone argue that the game begins at any point other than at the break?

The game does begin at the break, however ranking and winning games only kicks in after 3 balls have been potted.

I must say I have not had any problems with this rule, the only time people leave early is straight after the break, simply because they don't want to play another game.

You can see a players rank befre entering a game, thats what the profiles are for innit?

There are two common scenarios i have encountered : people break, and f they dont get a GB or pot off the break they quickly leave and re-enter the game. I wont name names, but there are some who seem to play only like this.

The other is that upon your first shot, you pot two balls, then the opponent leaves.

I am a little perplexed as to why after the rule was fixed in 9ball, it wasnt in the other games? Everyone seems happy with the new way, so why not improve the other games to match?

Again, not criticising to be awkward, just hoping to help make the game more user friendly..

Edited because i mis-spelt GB! LOL!

Edited at 08:14 Sat 6/05/06 (BST)

Its always good to hear opinions so don't worry about expressing them, that is exactly what the forum is for.

The first scenario you mention is a good point, and one that needs to be addressed. There are a very small minority of users who seem so determined to get to the top of certain achievements they do what you describe.

However, I do believe there is a clear difference between the 9 ball game and the other two games. In 9 ball it is possible that the balls are set up after 1 or 2 have been potted for you to easily win in the next shot. Therefore if there was an easy 1-9 combination, a player would leave, making sure their opponent couldn't win.

Obviously in the other 2 games, this is not possible, as you have had to potted 7 balls to be in the same position. That is the difference and why it was only added to the 9 ball.

Overwhelmingly, everyone seemed to want it fixed in 9 ball, but I cannot see the same strength of feeling for the other games.

However, the scenario with golden breaks is a problem. I was thinking of adding a sportsmanship section to the rules, including players that constantly leave after failing to get a golden break, or attempting to put the opponent off with text. Trouble is it would be a very difficult thing to moderate and enforce.

I dont know how much data is stored about games, would it be possible to flag someone who repeatedly left games early? Comparing this to achievement trends would make a pretty strong case.

Also, as you will imagine from the other thread, i love the text abuse idea!

Yes, I believe it would be possible to add that to someone's profile.

Left game early : x times

Maybe won't eradicate the problem, but would certainly be useful, and maybe people would think twice before leaving games early many times.....

Good idea.....

Especially useful if you put it next to the GB stats