If that was the case and order then it should have been shuffled, I wasn't made aware of that particular match. I'm only going by last night's Final which I was immediately told the order about.

As for 15 players I've been saying it's far too many for ages, a huge plus & I have to credit where credit's due the start time 8pm was the right choice on this occasion. I think if teams were 3 players each then rhe latest start be 9pm but anything exceeding 3 each has to be 8pm. As for the 7pm talk Lol. Some people work or have other commitments to tend too, what's next midday when some are sipping your cartons of milk and eating Oreo biscuits before their nap?

No jealousy whatsoever, erigert if you killed that list of players then well done fantastic achievement. They are all top quality players. All I asked was a little shuffle and common sense be applied if unbalanced

Can LOL all you want but said 9 pm was too late because of 2 hour killer and i was right so thanks for the apology appreciated. This Killer nearly took THREE hours so the 9 pm to 11 pm argument i had now could apply to 8 pm as well unless it went from 5v5v5 to 3v3v3. Three Hours takes it to 10 pm which i wanted originally rather than the 11 pm it did finish. that is why i suggested 7 pm was better, unfortunately Stu said 8 pm was fine after we agreed so couldn't change it but no one expected an 8 pm start to finish at 10:45 pm.

You said before, you could get no one on before 9 pm but to your credit got 5 players online so i'm sure you would do the same for 7 pm also. Need to think about how long killer lasts rather than yourself but i knew your plan from the off.

As for order, we going to change until it benefits Phoenix? No, one order and thats it, If someone disconnects halfway, we don't start over, you continue to play.

As for Midday, maybe we should take Zantes advice and have a Day Killer for a change

So Pheonix didnt win the killer. This was because of the totally random way the order was picked. In future the order should be picked by the league runner? Who with the help of an impartial Mod picked a random day and time for the start of the killer final.In turn was then accused of not acting impartially with a start of 8pm on a Friday. But we now want this league runner to pick the order. The length of the match was too long because the top players picked dont miss much so we should now put in just three players and start at 9pm as this is fine and all of Pheonix's players can then play in the order selected by the impartial league runner who has been questioned over and over again about his integrity. L M A O.

And he dont like jokes........what a muppet he is.

Congrats to Uprising and their Goats

Lol always summit to complain about, just accept uprising are to good.

I'm not complaining this time it was just a suggestion if the order could be altered if appears to be more favourable in future to any particular side.

If you learn to read too, I've praised Uprising and erigert and have not once mentioned Phoenix players deserving anything more than 3rd place. Uprising fully deserve their win and congrats to northman too for being the last remaining DFE representative out of a high quality lineup.

For the record, I am not moaning, the point of my post was to state MY opinion that the final was not epic. Making mountains out of molehills I feel. Need to sort that auto defensive mechanism out James, seems you see what you want to see sometimes!

And who decides what is favourable and what not?

Oh dear, turn an enjoyable event into one about Phoenix? There's no need.

I don't remember how long you stuck around for after you went out, but there was plenty of fight in the game. Only came from Ryan from Phoenix but the conclusion of the match was a 3 vs 3 with both sides having their players in a run. It doesn't have that big of an event and random is the fairest way. Though that is besides the point, because in the years and years of killer, the order has never been able to be changed. Why does it suddenly become an issue because Uprising won? Quite simply we were the best team. Almost every player had a teammate around them and that's all that really matters. Plenty of times players have been killed by their own team and usually you have to give more thought to shots when you have a run of teammates.

Ryan hung on after some terrific shots from Eri when we lost our two strongest players with the third strongest due to be leaving. At one point we were definitely not the favourites, late on with Harry and Dvz both on 3 lives with no real danger on them. Similarly, Ryan hung in longer than he should've been able to which was an epic fight. It's clearly not a simple game if it takes near enough 3 hours.

Or you could look at the actual definition of the word being used: an exceptionally long and arduous task or activity.


So well done all on an epic final. Not more really needs to be said does it? We can have a discussion at end of season it a reshuffle isn't possible just like it's not possible for evening up break shots in regular games (so 9 breaks out of 15 does happen occasionally).

Its absolutely fine. The whole league is good as it was all season and you want a long hard fought killer match that lasts a while. Its an event!! Thats why its the final.

So tiring... does everything that doesnt go your way have to be changed?

The whole point of team killer is that it's a final, it's random, everything is allowed. Stop trying to regulate even the last detail.

Just. Play. The. Game.

How is that so difficult.

Hmmm, maybe because he doesnt play in them?