Ranking system for Tournies

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13:39 Wed 24 Nov 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
So there have been winners and losers so far in terms of ranking points won or lost within tournaments. The big winners are those who deliberately keep their rank low but are very good players.

Therefore I think the system needs to track max rank attained (in any of the users accounts!!!!) and use max rank attained less say 7.5% to calculate the resulting change in points after the match. This allows for a fairer reflection of an individuals true ability rather than the 600 - 720 ranked players who are actually pros. You know who you are guys and girls......

In addition in str8 games the multipier should be reduced to avoid the 10-15 pts lost in just one game sometimes. You dont lose that in any other game format and you have no chance to address the balance as it is always best of 1. All other formats (ignoring random and speed) have a minimum of best of 3.

An alternative to this could be straightforward 3pts for a win in Tournies and -3 for a loss OR
loser loses only 50% (i.e single multiplier)

Thoughts please - this is meant to be constructive and helpful in fine tuning what is a good update to funkypool...
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14:52 Wed 24 Nov 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
In the suggestion 3 pts for a win - I mean winning that round rather than per game. so even 2-0 or 3-0 or 4-0 etc wud be 3 pts for winner only.....

A good analogy - if chelsea were to enter the carling cup (i.e a one off tournament) but they might lose 15 prem points in one game they just wudn't enter.....
eemad
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18:02 Wed 24 Nov 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
The ranks simply ain't right for most users at the moment. Give it till the end of the year and everyones ranks will be where they should be (with a very very few exceptions).

Once that happens the problem should be solved so I don't think there would be much need for a system like this.
unknown_id
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18:58 Wed 24 Nov 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
Agree with al here for a change. Straights only really for the better players or those who just play it to get better from 670.
Something needs to be put in place in that respect and i think if all tournys were kept to ranked but the points were exactly how they were before it would be more appealing.
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19:16 Wed 24 Nov 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
wow - there a first Matt

Are you ill? lol
unknown_id
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19:18 Wed 24 Nov 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
nah just sick of the higher rankings getting penalised unfairly because of the lower ranks.

Straights hard enough to find a game as it is so there needs to be different rules in there.
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19:56 Wed 24 Nov 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
unknown_id said:
nah just sick of the higher rankings getting penalised unfairly because of the lower ranks.

Straights hard enough to find a game as it is so there needs to be different rules in there.


wanna dummy?

LOL!
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00:45 Thu 25 Nov 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
I will say Al, that basing the amount gained on the maximum may flush out those who keep their rank low, but only if they went up from the start-if they made the account and went straight down to Inter'/Novice, then there wouldn't be any difference.

Also, it would make it more difficult for those that lose a large amount of rank legitimately to gain a decent amount of points in the tournaments-it's easy to lose a good 40 points in one drunken/poor night, so that will reduce the amount you gain in the next game.

As I suggested in the other thread, I like the idea of a fixed amount of rank per game (rather than per round, a 3-0 win should be rewarded more than a 3-2 win), but possibly having the gain increase as the tournament gets into the latter stages, but the loss being the same.

When it comes to Straight, I do totally agree with you.
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15:14 Thu 25 Nov 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
I would have put everyone on 675 points for ranking tournies and kept them separate from normal ranked games,just to see how it went,but my other idea is simpler and fairer,keep ranked tournies and ranked games together and make it 1 point per win,-1 for lose just in ranked tournies .you win 2_0,2_1,2_1,2_0,3_2 you would gain 7 points .then players like al_ wont be punished for winning 3_2 in a final against someone like 0ngbak.normal ranked points system remeans the same.some people will moan about my comment and say things like ,its not meant to be serious,its just fun but you can be both.and scrap random tournies most players prefer traditional tournies that go on their 8ball,9ball uk,etc tourny wins.
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02:26 Fri 26 Nov 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
normal ranking games i think are not now classed as being important,more as being inferior games.tourny points is where its at i will drop to 775 and then start to play them and try to get to 800.just got to get used to the new system.
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02:49 Fri 26 Nov 10 (GMT)  [Link]  
I think it should be only double ranking points won/lost when its quarters/semis/finals because if you go out in the early rounds by a fluker there goes atleast 10 or more points off your ranking.
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