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dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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09:17 Sat 5 Jun 10 (BST)  [Link]  
I got this idea from carom on snooker basically you have to have same amount of turns in a game, could this be implemented on Straight.

When the person who doesn't break has a chance to top the opponents score if the person who breaks gets to 35 first.

If the person who doesn't break gets to 35 first however then the game ends due to having same amount of turns.

This would be in friendly and ranked games not tournaments.

thoughts?

Edited at 14:20 Sat 05/06/10 (BST)
joker86
joker86
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09:23 Sat 5 Jun 10 (BST)  [Link]  
Hmm not a bad idea James.

Would be interesting to see what views are on this

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09:26 Sat 5 Jun 10 (BST)  [Link]  
very intresting
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09:58 Sat 5 Jun 10 (BST)  [Link]  
In Carom the person starting off could win the game from the start without the opponent getting a shot I think (I am sure someone will correct if not right!!) without the 'equal innings' rule.

In Straight because you can't currently nominate and pot that ball off the break then clearly you cannot get to 35 without the opponent getting to play a shot.

Therefore you could introduce this as an option however in reality I can't see it making a huge amount of difference to the gameplay. Never anything wrong with options though.

What is much more interesting from Carom I believe is the lag for break. That is certainly something that could be imported successfully into Pool.
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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10:21 Sun 6 Jun 10 (BST)  [Link]  
no they cant, say destiny gets a 10 run from break shot, game doesnt end like straight does, the opponent has 1 last turn to try and get past that 10 run.

if scores are equal after equal innings then the game goes into a sudden death situation until there is a winner.

i also think you should be able to pot from break as well.
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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11:54 Sun 6 Jun 10 (BST)  [Link]  
also i forgot to add, you have to have equal turns, so if destiny broke off and got to 35 in 2 turns and im on 13 then i get 1 more chance to get 22 points for sudden death or 23 to win.

but if destiny got to 35 first and i broke off then we both had same amount of turns each so the game would end like normal

see my point?
jimfaebod
jimfaebod
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12:09 Sun 6 Jun 10 (BST)  [Link]  
I think that this would be pretty impracticable!

The time duration at present is around 20 mins and if it took that long, then the losing person would then have 1 or 2 shots to equal or better the score that has been attained.

Straight tournaments go on for long enough as it is without having additional time for a losing opponent to try and match or better his opponents score.

Was a nice thought, but cant see it being practical.
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12:20 Sun 6 Jun 10 (BST)  [Link]  
dgeneratio said:
see my point?


I got it first time - I was just pointing out why it was necessary in Carom (to stop someone winning from the first shot) but not necessary in Straight.

The overriding argument against it would be I guess that the games are designed to mirror as closely as possible those in real life.

No reason why it couldnt be an option in friendly games if enough people wanted it and twisted Nick's arm although I can't see that happening really.
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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12:30 Sun 6 Jun 10 (BST)  [Link]  
if you read Jim this would not be in tournaments.
jimfaebod
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16:46 Sun 6 Jun 10 (BST)  [Link]  
Apologies if I misinterpreted your original request!

What I cannot differntiate is that any game of straight whether tournament or not is the same barring a time limit on the tournament..

Therefore you are wanting different settings for straight games and straight tournament games...

Edited at 21:49 Sun 06/06/10 (BST)
qpounder
qpounder
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17:19 Sun 6 Jun 10 (BST)  [Link]  
the only thing that should change in this game is giving it the proper rules so people cant carry on with lucky shots and blasting the pack so anoying

naming the ball to pot in a named bag

it wouldnt take long to click on a ball of table then click a bag ...........few seconds

but i dont mind it the way it is if everyone got 35+ on there first chance most of the time then maybe somthing to talk about but its rare anyone wins me in one go (i havnt played destiny) so no need really
jimfaebod
jimfaebod
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17:28 Sun 6 Jun 10 (BST)  [Link]  
Totally agree with what you say here reagrding its very few and far between that opponents will get 35+ in the first visit to the table..

However is this jot the same as getting a golden break or potting the black from the break in the other disciplines...

The principle here now swings to opponent being given the opportunity to go for golden break or potting the black from the break.
qpounder
qpounder
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20:22 Sun 6 Jun 10 (BST)  [Link]  
do you mean to start the run with i cant pot the black of the break so wouldnt risk tryin it but im sure some mite
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